Personally, I think santorum (the frothy stuff) is disgusting, but I think the fact that everybody knows what it means and why it’s named that is hilarious.

I have similar opinions about the donkey punch. I wouldn’t do it. (Honestly, I still don’t buy the premise, from a purely mechanical point of view.) And I wouldn’t think it was funny if it was done to somebody. But like Doxy says, I wouldn’t think it would be funny to pick out two fingers and get them jammed in my eyes either, and I think the Three Stooges are fucking hysterical.

I just think the cultural phenomenom of the term itself is funny.

And lest somebody pull the whole “violence against women is never funny” bit again, I, like one or two other people here, have real first-hand experience with REAL violence against women…bruises and blood and blunt trauma and screaming and police cars and hospital visits. Sorry, but the mythical donkey punch, tasteless or not, ain’t even remotely in the same league.

I don’t see the problem here. For example, the ongoing “All your base” joke, I find funny for the same reason– yet take the sentences out of context and they don’t amuse me at all, and, as far as bad English goes– it isn’t even THAT funny. The phenomena does amuse me, however. I see this as a similar thing.

Getting upset at Dion because ‘the Donkey Punch’ is inherently misogynist is a bit like getting upset at the “All your base” people for being inherently ‘racist’.

You don’t have to like the joke, get the joke OR find it amusing, but throwing wild accusations because someone else likes the joke seems a bit much to me. How much more ‘PC’ do we have to be before it starts getting ridiculous? Let it go, yeesh.

On another note, love the blog. =)

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Something can only be degrading to women if it cannot be transferred on another set of partners, otherwise it’s just violence. What’s interesting to me is that no one posting here seems to be aware that phases like Donkey Punch and Dirty Sanchez and Chili Dog all mostly started as prison terms where no women were involved. The implied “she” of the phases is the bitch of the pair, but still intended as a man doing it to another man situation. Have we really gotten so PC that something which started out as an act of violence between two male prison inmates can be co-opted by feminist outrage? Maybe understanding the etymology of the terms makes it more obvious that they’re an expression of repressed / over-exertive machismo and hardly exploitive toward women. But we are so quick these days to label something racist or sexist or exploitive toward one group or another.

In practice there is a difference between consensual and non-consensual, agreed. A donky punch performed in real life by definition would be an act of violence – but that doesn’t mean it is inherently exploitive against women. In fact, I don’t know anyone who has ever done it in practice or anyone who even fantasizes about it as a real act. Considering the twisted little screws that make up me and my friends – that’s really saying something. In fantasy there is no exploitation. In fantasy there is no criminal act. It’s all expression and, in this case, warped humor.

However, it’s worth noting that there are perfectly normal women who fantasize about being raped/beaten/abused, especially in a sexual context. There are men who fantasize about being the abuser/beater/rapist. There’s nothing unhealthy about it.

But there will always be those who continue to insist that such fantasies (or acts contemplated in theory) are offensive and degrading to women. Or, they’re okay if a woman has such fantasies, but it’s only some horrible male who would engage in them. It’s a double standard because we continue to glorify the reverse as healthy woman-power rah-rah. A dominatrix with her whip licking a guy’s back and her boot up his ass is empowering to women. A woman raping a man is an expression of feminist rage, not exploitation toward men.

I don’t endorse violence toward women (or men, for that matter). There are few women in the world who don’t have first-hand knowledge of how frightening and violating such things can be in the real sense of the world. But trying to elevate this topic as exploitive toward women is misplaced feminist mantra.

Dox