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		<title>By: wettoy</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/07/01/sex-and-submission/#comment-58724</link>
		<dc:creator>wettoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to help all those individuals whom cannot fathom the thought that seeing a woman sexed in bondage is degrading, I am a woman in my late thirties, who thoroughly enjoys her sex, and not only do I visually find it stimulating to view as I can reminisce of the pleasures of bondage and pains that drive me to oblivion. I am not a slave to anyone, simply submitting my sexual energies for a higher bliss. And if pleasure by consent is a sin, then to Hell I shall reign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to help all those individuals whom cannot fathom the thought that seeing a woman sexed in bondage is degrading, I am a woman in my late thirties, who thoroughly enjoys her sex, and not only do I visually find it stimulating to view as I can reminisce of the pleasures of bondage and pains that drive me to oblivion. I am not a slave to anyone, simply submitting my sexual energies for a higher bliss. And if pleasure by consent is a sin, then to Hell I shall reign.</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/07/01/sex-and-submission/#comment-3279</link>
		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article might shed light on a few questions regarding S/M and sex representation in porn, even if the answers are confusing:

http://www.tinynibbles.com/smsex.html

(originally published on the Good Vibes Magazine) Until now, it&#039;s had nothing to do with market demand; it&#039;s been a legal dance around a very grey area.

But also think about this -- has mainstream porn ever cared about the consumer?

Also, I just want to put my 2 cents in for the company behind the Men in Pain, Sex and Submission, etc. (Cybernet Ent.) sites; they are very, very cool people who put the comfort of their performers at the top of the list (even tho it looks intense sometimes)! What I mean is that they only have performes do the sex acts they really like/get off on in real life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article might shed light on a few questions regarding S/M and sex representation in porn, even if the answers are confusing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tinynibbles.com/smsex.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinynibbles.com/smsex.html</a></p>
<p>(originally published on the Good Vibes Magazine) Until now, it&#8217;s had nothing to do with market demand; it&#8217;s been a legal dance around a very grey area.</p>
<p>But also think about this &#8212; has mainstream porn ever cared about the consumer?</p>
<p>Also, I just want to put my 2 cents in for the company behind the Men in Pain, Sex and Submission, etc. (Cybernet Ent.) sites; they are very, very cool people who put the comfort of their performers at the top of the list (even tho it looks intense sometimes)! What I mean is that they only have performes do the sex acts they really like/get off on in real life.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/07/01/sex-and-submission/#comment-3278</link>
		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...rules of thumb designed to help porn producers avoid judicial unpleasantry...&quot;

Yup,that&#039;s pretty much what I said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;rules of thumb designed to help porn producers avoid judicial unpleasantry&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup,that&#8217;s pretty much what I said.</p>
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		<title>By: erran</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/07/01/sex-and-submission/#comment-3277</link>
		<dc:creator>erran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought the reason you dont see much of what you described is because    its too legally risky to portray bound women having such acts performed upon them. am i wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought the reason you dont see much of what you described is because    its too legally risky to portray bound women having such acts performed upon them. am i wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: sage</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/07/01/sex-and-submission/#comment-3276</link>
		<dc:creator>sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a note on &quot;one-sided representation&quot;.  the market exists for its demographic.  people pay for what they want to see.  it may be rather sexist now, but as more women seek pleasure in pornography, there is bound to be more balance.  still...  i know that there are a lot of women (even feminists like me) who get turned on by the fantasy of submission.  not sure i would actually do some of this stuff, but it does fan the flames...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a note on &#8220;one-sided representation&#8221;.  the market exists for its demographic.  people pay for what they want to see.  it may be rather sexist now, but as more women seek pleasure in pornography, there is bound to be more balance.  still&#8230;  i know that there are a lot of women (even feminists like me) who get turned on by the fantasy of submission.  not sure i would actually do some of this stuff, but it does fan the flames&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sinboy</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/07/01/sex-and-submission/#comment-3275</link>
		<dc:creator>sinboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happen to know, perosnalyy, a few of the models and production crew over at the main production site for Sex And Submission.  They&#039;re all lifestyle BDSM folks.  that&#039;s the joy of these sites -  the models are obviously enjoying themselves.  The site goes through a lot of trouble to make sure of that.  And there are interviews afterwards that let the models talk honestly about the scenes.

Oh, and they always use condoms.

If you want to see men being fucked in the ass, michelle, the fine folks at Cyber Entertainment have 
Butt Machine Boys and Men In Pain.  

So go subscribe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happen to know, perosnalyy, a few of the models and production crew over at the main production site for Sex And Submission.  They&#8217;re all lifestyle BDSM folks.  that&#8217;s the joy of these sites &#8211;  the models are obviously enjoying themselves.  The site goes through a lot of trouble to make sure of that.  And there are interviews afterwards that let the models talk honestly about the scenes.</p>
<p>Oh, and they always use condoms.</p>
<p>If you want to see men being fucked in the ass, michelle, the fine folks at Cyber Entertainment have<br />
Butt Machine Boys and Men In Pain.  </p>
<p>So go subscribe.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/07/01/sex-and-submission/#comment-3270</link>
		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, you seem to have a bad habit of fulminating from a position of ignorance.  I&#039;d really suggest &quot;boning up&quot; a bit more.  I&#039;m not going to respond to everything you said, just correct some factual errors and misconceptions:

1)&quot;i haven&#039;t seen a guy do double anal or ass to mouth.&quot;  A2M is vanishing, thank the gods, from the porn industry, for health reasons. Not gone yet, but going. Meanwhile, your instinct to check gay porn is right on -- you&#039;ll find what you&#039;re looking for.

2)&quot;it&#039;s still humiliating and degrading (i mean bad in the sense that these girls didn&#039;t get paid much and their asshole is shredded)&quot; Erosblog is the  &lt;strong&gt;wrong&lt;/strong&gt; place to sugggest that porn of any voluntary sort is &quot;degrading&quot;.  We&#039;re sex positive here.  And you&#039;re factually wrong about the girls not being paid much -- they&#039;re paid the fair market going rate, which is all anybody ever gets for anything they do in this world.  Unless you think it&#039;s degrading to work for a living?  Also, it&#039;s simply *not* the case that assholes normally get &quot;shredded&quot; doing double anal.  Go read the book &quot;Anal Pleasure and Health&#039; and come back when you&#039;ve got a better sense of what the human body is capable of.

3) &quot;i still maintain that watching submissive females have sex is unremarkable and retro.&quot;  I never said different.  I said watching them do it IN BONDAGE was remarkable.  And it is.  Common as hell in dungeons and bedrooms across the land, but very rare in porn.  If you want to argue the point, email me three URLs to U.S. porn producers who feature this material.  (That assignment is actually probably possible, but you&#039;d really have to work at it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, you seem to have a bad habit of fulminating from a position of ignorance.  I&#8217;d really suggest &#8220;boning up&#8221; a bit more.  I&#8217;m not going to respond to everything you said, just correct some factual errors and misconceptions:</p>
<p>1)&#8221;i haven&#8217;t seen a guy do double anal or ass to mouth.&#8221;  A2M is vanishing, thank the gods, from the porn industry, for health reasons. Not gone yet, but going. Meanwhile, your instinct to check gay porn is right on &#8212; you&#8217;ll find what you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
<p>2)&#8221;it&#8217;s still humiliating and degrading (i mean bad in the sense that these girls didn&#8217;t get paid much and their asshole is shredded)&#8221; Erosblog is the  <strong>wrong</strong> place to sugggest that porn of any voluntary sort is &#8220;degrading&#8221;.  We&#8217;re sex positive here.  And you&#8217;re factually wrong about the girls not being paid much &#8212; they&#8217;re paid the fair market going rate, which is all anybody ever gets for anything they do in this world.  Unless you think it&#8217;s degrading to work for a living?  Also, it&#8217;s simply *not* the case that assholes normally get &#8220;shredded&#8221; doing double anal.  Go read the book &#8220;Anal Pleasure and Health&#8217; and come back when you&#8217;ve got a better sense of what the human body is capable of.</p>
<p>3) &#8220;i still maintain that watching submissive females have sex is unremarkable and retro.&#8221;  I never said different.  I said watching them do it IN BONDAGE was remarkable.  And it is.  Common as hell in dungeons and bedrooms across the land, but very rare in porn.  If you want to argue the point, email me three URLs to U.S. porn producers who feature this material.  (That assignment is actually probably possible, but you&#8217;d really have to work at it.)</p>
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