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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/10/22/evil-porn-werewolf-enslavers-debunked/#comment-61378</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if you're not someone who has any connection to kink or BDSM it's easy to think that no would ever consent to do that. Once you know people who do, or you become a person who does, consent to pretty rough treatment for FUN, then it's much easier to see why someone would consent to it for PAY. Anyway, I have bigger beefs with mainstream porn--the fluffy teenagers of Playboy and Maxim--than I do with any of the BDSM porn, in which the women look like real people to me, with real emotions and expressions. Thanks for your blog. Usually I just read but wanted to get my 2 cents in here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if you&#8217;re not someone who has any connection to kink or BDSM it&#8217;s easy to think that no would ever consent to do that. Once you know people who do, or you become a person who does, consent to pretty rough treatment for FUN, then it&#8217;s much easier to see why someone would consent to it for PAY. Anyway, I have bigger beefs with mainstream porn&#8211;the fluffy teenagers of Playboy and Maxim&#8211;than I do with any of the BDSM porn, in which the women look like real people to me, with real emotions and expressions. Thanks for your blog. Usually I just read but wanted to get my 2 cents in here.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/10/22/evil-porn-werewolf-enslavers-debunked/#comment-61375</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not at all persuaded by the argument about direct coercion, as in the "gun to the head" idea. But there are some safety issues that do bother me, such as the lack of safe sex in porn. Very rare to see a condom in porn but if we don't work to make condoms sexy, make them part of our sexual imagery, then there are issues for all of us, as well as for the women and men who work in the porn industry. As for women and coercion, I think the more difficult arguments are much more general--raising girls into women who think beauty matters most of all--and affect all of our lives (including those of us outside the mainstream beauty ideals who still want to feel sexy). But those arguments count as much or more against Cosmo and other women's magazines which have a much more narrow representation of beauty than does porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not at all persuaded by the argument about direct coercion, as in the &#8220;gun to the head&#8221; idea. But there are some safety issues that do bother me, such as the lack of safe sex in porn. Very rare to see a condom in porn but if we don&#8217;t work to make condoms sexy, make them part of our sexual imagery, then there are issues for all of us, as well as for the women and men who work in the porn industry. As for women and coercion, I think the more difficult arguments are much more general&#8211;raising girls into women who think beauty matters most of all&#8211;and affect all of our lives (including those of us outside the mainstream beauty ideals who still want to feel sexy). But those arguments count as much or more against Cosmo and other women&#8217;s magazines which have a much more narrow representation of beauty than does porn.</p>
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		<title>By: Bekah</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/10/22/evil-porn-werewolf-enslavers-debunked/#comment-60724</link>
		<dc:creator>Bekah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB's rant made me mad too.

Yay for Bacchus!

I am a self sufficient 26yr old that makes more than my fiancé. As he's so bad with money his wages go into my account and I sort out the bills. We're both happy with this, as we both get to but what we like out of the remaining disposable income.

As you can no doubt tell, I'm a bit of a control freak.

However, in the bedroom department I am a submissive in a D&#38;S &#38; BDSM way that would make BB scream in rage, and I think that's fine.

If people want to watch, that's fine too. If I could find someone to pay me to do it - even better :)

Lots of girls really do like this kind of thing.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB&#8217;s rant made me mad too.</p>
<p>Yay for Bacchus!</p>
<p>I am a self sufficient 26yr old that makes more than my fiancé. As he&#8217;s so bad with money his wages go into my account and I sort out the bills. We&#8217;re both happy with this, as we both get to but what we like out of the remaining disposable income.</p>
<p>As you can no doubt tell, I&#8217;m a bit of a control freak.</p>
<p>However, in the bedroom department I am a submissive in a D&amp;S &amp; BDSM way that would make BB scream in rage, and I think that&#8217;s fine.</p>
<p>If people want to watch, that&#8217;s fine too. If I could find someone to pay me to do it - even better :)</p>
<p>Lots of girls really do like this kind of thing&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: manzun</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/10/22/evil-porn-werewolf-enslavers-debunked/#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator>manzun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 08:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:P</p>
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		<title>By: Librarygirl</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2005/10/22/evil-porn-werewolf-enslavers-debunked/#comment-2671</link>
		<dc:creator>Librarygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*laughs*  I got so angry reading BB's rant Matt almost had to spank me!  :angry:  (he gave me a warning, so I was able to stop myself in time)  

I thought about replying, but I don't really want to put a lot of effort into a reply that will be dismissed as soon as it's read.  (which it would - posters who disagree with her are usually ridiculed.)

Besides, who knows what she would say about spanking videos...  nevermind that I know several video actors and actresses as well as producers and guess what?  No guns, no violence, no rapes, no coercion...  just lots and lots of spanking.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*laughs*  I got so angry reading BB&#8217;s rant Matt almost had to spank me!  :angry:  (he gave me a warning, so I was able to stop myself in time)  </p>
<p>I thought about replying, but I don&#8217;t really want to put a lot of effort into a reply that will be dismissed as soon as it&#8217;s read.  (which it would - posters who disagree with her are usually ridiculed.)</p>
<p>Besides, who knows what she would say about spanking videos&#8230;  nevermind that I know several video actors and actresses as well as producers and guess what?  No guns, no violence, no rapes, no coercion&#8230;  just lots and lots of spanking.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"They don't like this, but they have a hard time arguing against it."

Ha!  No, they don't -- just check out the October 22 post titled "Here's Your Free Speech, You Fuckers".  Includes a gratuitous suggestion that Eros Blog readers read stories more vile than the notorious Jake Baker rape/snuff email, and concludes with "There's no civility left in my tiny cold black hard for fuckers who scream "free speech" at me anymore.... If this is "free speech", I'm starting a foundation to turn us into a nation of mutes."

No, they don't have any trouble arguing against free speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They don&#8217;t like this, but they have a hard time arguing against it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ha!  No, they don&#8217;t &#8212; just check out the October 22 post titled &#8220;Here&#8217;s Your Free Speech, You Fuckers&#8221;.  Includes a gratuitous suggestion that Eros Blog readers read stories more vile than the notorious Jake Baker rape/snuff email, and concludes with &#8220;There&#8217;s no civility left in my tiny cold black hard for fuckers who scream &#8220;free speech&#8221; at me anymore&#8230;. If this is &#8220;free speech&#8221;, I&#8217;m starting a foundation to turn us into a nation of mutes.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, they don&#8217;t have any trouble arguing against free speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Freya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh so much here. Firstly, I think any argument that the patriarchy has conditioned me to get wet when my husband flogs me is specious.

I may have been socially conditioned to stay at home and wash dishes (although I went to law school and now I write smut), but as a feminist and someone who has spent a great deal of time discussing patriarchy and oppression, I must step off the bus when it comes to the argument that being a sexual submissive is a social condition of sexism.

Now, are there misogynistic assholes out there who use BDSM as a cloak to abuse their wives/partners/subs? Hell yes. Abusers are clever, they'll use what they can. But it's faulty logic to extrapolate that out to make it the norm.

In any case, I do agree that one should check out their porn source. But I check out the people who make my shoes too. I don't find a huge amount of comfort in assurances by the makers of these movies that women in the third world (and yes, the Czech Republic is on the brink of the third world and certainly most of Eastern Europe is) are just fine. But you know, women in the first world do things for money they wouldn't normally do either and where do you draw the line? Certainly at using violence and coercion to force women to be abused for money, but again, I could argue that lots of things not even porn related are using the threat of violence to get people to do things for money. That's what desperation will do to you.

Okay, this is long and turning into an essay on class and gender so I'll quit now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh so much here. Firstly, I think any argument that the patriarchy has conditioned me to get wet when my husband flogs me is specious.</p>
<p>I may have been socially conditioned to stay at home and wash dishes (although I went to law school and now I write smut), but as a feminist and someone who has spent a great deal of time discussing patriarchy and oppression, I must step off the bus when it comes to the argument that being a sexual submissive is a social condition of sexism.</p>
<p>Now, are there misogynistic assholes out there who use BDSM as a cloak to abuse their wives/partners/subs? Hell yes. Abusers are clever, they&#8217;ll use what they can. But it&#8217;s faulty logic to extrapolate that out to make it the norm.</p>
<p>In any case, I do agree that one should check out their porn source. But I check out the people who make my shoes too. I don&#8217;t find a huge amount of comfort in assurances by the makers of these movies that women in the third world (and yes, the Czech Republic is on the brink of the third world and certainly most of Eastern Europe is) are just fine. But you know, women in the first world do things for money they wouldn&#8217;t normally do either and where do you draw the line? Certainly at using violence and coercion to force women to be abused for money, but again, I could argue that lots of things not even porn related are using the threat of violence to get people to do things for money. That&#8217;s what desperation will do to you.</p>
<p>Okay, this is long and turning into an essay on class and gender so I&#8217;ll quit now.</p>
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