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		<title>By: tamara</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5458</link>
		<dc:creator>tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who's been a sex worker for years, I can actually say lots of men really are shamed into being horrified of themselves by their partners.  It drove me CRAZY when I saw it.  Some men had been so shamed by premature ejaculation that they were like kicked puppies.  Sexual power is NOT only in the hands of men!  

I was always shocked when a guy would tell me his wife would NEVER... give a blowjob, allow a pearl necklace, or some other harmless thing like that.  I mean to me, it's actually far more challenging to swallow than to have cum on your tits, especially if we are not talking about tasty cum (which based on her blog, she is not!).  Cum on your tits, you wipe off. Cum in your mouth, you hafta figure out a way to swallow! Which, if the taste is awful, is not always easy!  (For me, it's best if the cum is shot straight down my throat.  You get a tiny taste!)  

Honestly, I used to have to guide guys into doing the things I LOVE to do (and that I know they want to do too!) because they were far too cowed and scared to ask.  Every once in a blue moon I'd meet a guy who was, in my mind, a mysoginist... but the vast majority of my clients loved women and were desperate for some guidance and some acceptance and had been so busy bending over backwards to please the women who snap the whip to keep them in line, they'd never had any damned fun.  It's frankly depressing to think about.  It makes me want to start whoring again NOW.  (I am taking a break.)  

Humiliation CAN be sex-positive if it is what a person (male/female) wants, enjoys, and finds empowering and liberating.  I know several people who enjoy it, and I'm friends with a woman who gives classes on erotic humiliation which are always packed to the gills.  I'm much more comfortable when people don't say "THAT cannot be" whatever adjective you choose.  Yes, it can.  If it's not for you, that's ok.  But ah, the judgement!  I am the most judgemental person when it comes to some things, but I've learned to at least *try* to be open to the sexuality of other people.  

Of course, I wouldn't expect openness from someone in denial about what she is writing in her "semen taste tests!"  :)   The way to change the many, many bad things about the porn industry is by admitting that you ARE posting porn, your own way, with your own control, in an empowering way for you... not by denying it.  Just like all the other thousands and thousands of amateur girls (like me) amateur writers (like me) who are creating their OWN porn instead of allowing the mainstream porn industry to be IT.   

Hmmm, I think I'm gonna go ask my husband to cum on my tits now. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s been a sex worker for years, I can actually say lots of men really are shamed into being horrified of themselves by their partners.  It drove me CRAZY when I saw it.  Some men had been so shamed by premature ejaculation that they were like kicked puppies.  Sexual power is NOT only in the hands of men!  </p>
<p>I was always shocked when a guy would tell me his wife would NEVER&#8230; give a blowjob, allow a pearl necklace, or some other harmless thing like that.  I mean to me, it&#8217;s actually far more challenging to swallow than to have cum on your tits, especially if we are not talking about tasty cum (which based on her blog, she is not!).  Cum on your tits, you wipe off. Cum in your mouth, you hafta figure out a way to swallow! Which, if the taste is awful, is not always easy!  (For me, it&#8217;s best if the cum is shot straight down my throat.  You get a tiny taste!)  </p>
<p>Honestly, I used to have to guide guys into doing the things I LOVE to do (and that I know they want to do too!) because they were far too cowed and scared to ask.  Every once in a blue moon I&#8217;d meet a guy who was, in my mind, a mysoginist&#8230; but the vast majority of my clients loved women and were desperate for some guidance and some acceptance and had been so busy bending over backwards to please the women who snap the whip to keep them in line, they&#8217;d never had any damned fun.  It&#8217;s frankly depressing to think about.  It makes me want to start whoring again NOW.  (I am taking a break.)  </p>
<p>Humiliation CAN be sex-positive if it is what a person (male/female) wants, enjoys, and finds empowering and liberating.  I know several people who enjoy it, and I&#8217;m friends with a woman who gives classes on erotic humiliation which are always packed to the gills.  I&#8217;m much more comfortable when people don&#8217;t say &#8220;THAT cannot be&#8221; whatever adjective you choose.  Yes, it can.  If it&#8217;s not for you, that&#8217;s ok.  But ah, the judgement!  I am the most judgemental person when it comes to some things, but I&#8217;ve learned to at least *try* to be open to the sexuality of other people.  </p>
<p>Of course, I wouldn&#8217;t expect openness from someone in denial about what she is writing in her &#8220;semen taste tests!&#8221;  :)   The way to change the many, many bad things about the porn industry is by admitting that you ARE posting porn, your own way, with your own control, in an empowering way for you&#8230; not by denying it.  Just like all the other thousands and thousands of amateur girls (like me) amateur writers (like me) who are creating their OWN porn instead of allowing the mainstream porn industry to be IT.   </p>
<p>Hmmm, I think I&#8217;m gonna go ask my husband to cum on my tits now. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: GL</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5457</link>
		<dc:creator>GL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I definately picked up on Ava's feeling that her boyfriend was being crass and unromantic when he said he wanted to cum on her tits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I definately picked up on Ava&#8217;s feeling that her boyfriend was being crass and unromantic when he said he wanted to cum on her tits.</p>
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		<title>By: scribe called steff</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5456</link>
		<dc:creator>scribe called steff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ava -- Well, I have to say, if the guy ONLY said things in that tone, I'd be up one side of him and down the other sooner or later.

I don't mind the intermittent crassness, because I know my guy doesn't exclusively think in those terms.

There's a balance.

And yes, clarity would be good. (smirk) It's hard to always nail the clarity thing. I know I still need to clarify my stance on "polyamory" from last month. That's the devil of blogging -- instant publishing means haphazard editing, and things fly under our radars.

Anyhow, I didn't link to you in my posting because I wasn't sure you meant to be as negative as it sounded -- but it gave me good fodder for writing anyhow. Better luck next time. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ava &#8212; Well, I have to say, if the guy ONLY said things in that tone, I&#8217;d be up one side of him and down the other sooner or later.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind the intermittent crassness, because I know my guy doesn&#8217;t exclusively think in those terms.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a balance.</p>
<p>And yes, clarity would be good. (smirk) It&#8217;s hard to always nail the clarity thing. I know I still need to clarify my stance on &#8220;polyamory&#8221; from last month. That&#8217;s the devil of blogging &#8212; instant publishing means haphazard editing, and things fly under our radars.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I didn&#8217;t link to you in my posting because I wasn&#8217;t sure you meant to be as negative as it sounded &#8212; but it gave me good fodder for writing anyhow. Better luck next time. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5452</link>
		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question, Ava, and we might hear from some female readers on it.  I dunno, though, if there's any way to separate the "were female readers better able to pick up your intended tone?" question from the basic Mars-Venus issue.  I'm speculating that you thought the disrepect that informed your anecdote was self-evident, whereas male me assumed (from the reported verbal exchange) the standard male semi-humorous sexual opportunism, which here on Mars is actally understood to be complimentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question, Ava, and we might hear from some female readers on it.  I dunno, though, if there&#8217;s any way to separate the &#8220;were female readers better able to pick up your intended tone?&#8221; question from the basic Mars-Venus issue.  I&#8217;m speculating that you thought the disrepect that informed your anecdote was self-evident, whereas male me assumed (from the reported verbal exchange) the standard male semi-humorous sexual opportunism, which here on Mars is actally understood to be complimentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Ava</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5451</link>
		<dc:creator>Ava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fault of lack of clarity is always on the writer in my opinion, so I'll accept blame for not being clear. Tone and context are definitely hard to convey in writing since you lack any sort of objectivity. I certainly *thought* I was clear.

I was wondering, however, if some of this might be related to the sex of the reader. Would my tone be clearer to female readers than male readers? Not saying it is, but it's worth considering.

Thanks again for the comments.

Ava</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fault of lack of clarity is always on the writer in my opinion, so I&#8217;ll accept blame for not being clear. Tone and context are definitely hard to convey in writing since you lack any sort of objectivity. I certainly *thought* I was clear.</p>
<p>I was wondering, however, if some of this might be related to the sex of the reader. Would my tone be clearer to female readers than male readers? Not saying it is, but it&#8217;s worth considering.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the comments.</p>
<p>Ava</p>
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		<title>By: Ava</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5455</link>
		<dc:creator>Ava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughts, Steff. I just need to learn to write with more clarity.

As to your experiences, I guess I can't really relate to where you are coming from, but that may just be cultural/social differences. I don't consider it a lack of tact when a guy says something like "So, we gonna fuck tonight?" so much as a lack of emotional connection. Sure, pure unbridled fucking is cool at times, but even that flows from the relationship we have. 

I don't even know if I can verbalize what I'm trying to say, which is frustrating in its own right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts, Steff. I just need to learn to write with more clarity.</p>
<p>As to your experiences, I guess I can&#8217;t really relate to where you are coming from, but that may just be cultural/social differences. I don&#8217;t consider it a lack of tact when a guy says something like &#8220;So, we gonna fuck tonight?&#8221; so much as a lack of emotional connection. Sure, pure unbridled fucking is cool at times, but even that flows from the relationship we have. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even know if I can verbalize what I&#8217;m trying to say, which is frustrating in its own right.</p>
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		<title>By: rupert</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5454</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many men don't know how to lead on to exploring other areas of kinkiness within regular sex with-out soiling it so to speak - like when they want to give a friend a hug, it can't seem to be that they can do it tenderly, it has to be done with, 'guffaws' and 'jeers'. Why? Why not tenderly hug another male friend.

Or making pugh of sexual desires, as coming on breasts or anyway. When I wanted to cum on my partner's clothes, after we had made love in a tight bond, with me having tied her, and held her, which she loves, she amusingly remarked 'oh no not my clean dress' but it was a moment we played out to each other, she enjoying the sub position and I performing a crass deed but perfectly suited to the roles we were both enjoying - 

I think you lead the other person in to what you are doing or if the moment salutes it, and you both can read each other's thoughts to a degree, then play it that way. 

I think I'm veering off topic as usual ... oh well ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many men don&#8217;t know how to lead on to exploring other areas of kinkiness within regular sex with-out soiling it so to speak - like when they want to give a friend a hug, it can&#8217;t seem to be that they can do it tenderly, it has to be done with, &#8216;guffaws&#8217; and &#8216;jeers&#8217;. Why? Why not tenderly hug another male friend.</p>
<p>Or making pugh of sexual desires, as coming on breasts or anyway. When I wanted to cum on my partner&#8217;s clothes, after we had made love in a tight bond, with me having tied her, and held her, which she loves, she amusingly remarked &#8216;oh no not my clean dress&#8217; but it was a moment we played out to each other, she enjoying the sub position and I performing a crass deed but perfectly suited to the roles we were both enjoying - </p>
<p>I think you lead the other person in to what you are doing or if the moment salutes it, and you both can read each other&#8217;s thoughts to a degree, then play it that way. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m veering off topic as usual &#8230; oh well &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scribe called steff</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5453</link>
		<dc:creator>scribe called steff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 08:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, Ava, the tone isn't any clearer for me, and I'm a chick.

I find my boyfriend's irreverence to be one of his sexy qualities. He's passionate, open, honest, but at times, he says the absolutely wrong thing with the dirtiest little grin on his face. We playfight, or I return the attitude. But I don't judge him for saying something in a less than tactful way. Shit happens.

In fact, one of the best and funniest moments we've had yet as a couple was as a result of some totally crass remark he made -- mostly because he was tired from just bringing me to orgasm, and was too tired or spent to think straight, and I totally knew that was the case -- but called him on it anyways, and began teasing him as a result, again, resulting in a playfight, resulting in yet more sex.

I mean, really, what's he gonna ask, "Excuse me, would you mind very much if I were to ejaculate upon your bosom later this evening? I would ever so appreciate it. Pretty please, with sugar on top?"

You know what I'm saying? I can appreciate where you're coming from, but I can't really empathize. I also agree with the comment on your site from The Boy, who said it was ironic that you took offense to his expression when you then turned around and offensively related the happenings in your own blog. It just smacks of duality, is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, Ava, the tone isn&#8217;t any clearer for me, and I&#8217;m a chick.</p>
<p>I find my boyfriend&#8217;s irreverence to be one of his sexy qualities. He&#8217;s passionate, open, honest, but at times, he says the absolutely wrong thing with the dirtiest little grin on his face. We playfight, or I return the attitude. But I don&#8217;t judge him for saying something in a less than tactful way. Shit happens.</p>
<p>In fact, one of the best and funniest moments we&#8217;ve had yet as a couple was as a result of some totally crass remark he made &#8212; mostly because he was tired from just bringing me to orgasm, and was too tired or spent to think straight, and I totally knew that was the case &#8212; but called him on it anyways, and began teasing him as a result, again, resulting in a playfight, resulting in yet more sex.</p>
<p>I mean, really, what&#8217;s he gonna ask, &#8220;Excuse me, would you mind very much if I were to ejaculate upon your bosom later this evening? I would ever so appreciate it. Pretty please, with sugar on top?&#8221;</p>
<p>You know what I&#8217;m saying? I can appreciate where you&#8217;re coming from, but I can&#8217;t really empathize. I also agree with the comment on your site from The Boy, who said it was ironic that you took offense to his expression when you then turned around and offensively related the happenings in your own blog. It just smacks of duality, is all.</p>
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		<title>By: scribe called steff</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5443</link>
		<dc:creator>scribe called steff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, anyone who reads me knows I'm not much into the whole porn thing, nor the "hey, shoot yer load on me" deal, but I'd never fault my guy for asking.

Just the other day, "What would you like to do this morning?"

"Well, I'd like you to go down on me, make me breakfast, then let's fuck like bunnies."

So I did all three. He was stunned. It's been a VERY nice week, and now he's even more open about more things than he'd been before, and the sex is getting a little raunchier, of which I approve.

I agree that any guy who claims he's horrified with himself IS NOT. She needs a little reality check, if that's how she dealt with it, and that's how he's supposedly responded. And too bad, too.

Once you burn that bridge of openness, the hesitation and lack of trust begins to spread. No lover should ever be faulted for expressing their wants.

All you have to say is, "I get why that might turn you on, but it's something I'm not comfortable with."

When will people ever learn the fucking power of diplomacy? Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, anyone who reads me knows I&#8217;m not much into the whole porn thing, nor the &#8220;hey, shoot yer load on me&#8221; deal, but I&#8217;d never fault my guy for asking.</p>
<p>Just the other day, &#8220;What would you like to do this morning?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I&#8217;d like you to go down on me, make me breakfast, then let&#8217;s fuck like bunnies.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I did all three. He was stunned. It&#8217;s been a VERY nice week, and now he&#8217;s even more open about more things than he&#8217;d been before, and the sex is getting a little raunchier, of which I approve.</p>
<p>I agree that any guy who claims he&#8217;s horrified with himself IS NOT. She needs a little reality check, if that&#8217;s how she dealt with it, and that&#8217;s how he&#8217;s supposedly responded. And too bad, too.</p>
<p>Once you burn that bridge of openness, the hesitation and lack of trust begins to spread. No lover should ever be faulted for expressing their wants.</p>
<p>All you have to say is, &#8220;I get why that might turn you on, but it&#8217;s something I&#8217;m not comfortable with.&#8221;</p>
<p>When will people ever learn the fucking power of diplomacy? Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/04/08/sexual-science/#comment-5450</link>
		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ava, I'd guess I have to say you *didn't* make it clear that it was his demeanor surrounding the request rather than the request itself that bothered you.  In both your blog comment and in this post (where you talk with evident disapproval about being a "semen target") the message that seems to come through is that the proposal itself was unwelcome, not its manner of phrasing.

I'll go a step further and say that the anecdote as you blogged it didn't convey any disrespect to me, making it tougher to understand that it was a disrespect issue with you.  As you say, context is important, tone of voice even more so, and explaining those things on this-here voiceless internet-thingy can be tough as hell.  Thus, I appreciate the clarifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ava, I&#8217;d guess I have to say you *didn&#8217;t* make it clear that it was his demeanor surrounding the request rather than the request itself that bothered you.  In both your blog comment and in this post (where you talk with evident disapproval about being a &#8220;semen target&#8221;) the message that seems to come through is that the proposal itself was unwelcome, not its manner of phrasing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go a step further and say that the anecdote as you blogged it didn&#8217;t convey any disrespect to me, making it tougher to understand that it was a disrespect issue with you.  As you say, context is important, tone of voice even more so, and explaining those things on this-here voiceless internet-thingy can be tough as hell.  Thus, I appreciate the clarifications.</p>
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