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		<title>By: andie</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/16/no-gentlemen-no-sex-pictures/#comment-6393</link>
		<dc:creator>andie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what i wouldn't give to get my boyfriend interested in erotic photography and he's and amatuer photographer! digital, poloroid, we have them all and he just doesn't see me as a subject. i wish he felt the same way about past girlfriends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i wouldn&#8217;t give to get my boyfriend interested in erotic photography and he&#8217;s and amatuer photographer! digital, poloroid, we have them all and he just doesn&#8217;t see me as a subject. i wish he felt the same way about past girlfriends!</p>
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		<title>By: YahRight</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/16/no-gentlemen-no-sex-pictures/#comment-6232</link>
		<dc:creator>YahRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: How does one tell the asshats from the angels?? 

Point A: People marry their "one and only" and x years later the divorce is brutal, both sexes do vile things to the former "love of their life". 

Point B: It is well known that men troll craigslist W4W with 'fake' stolen photos of women in order to interact with women who (obviously) want nothing to do with men; as a result the 'pic for pic' request is usually a sure sign that a guy is trolling in the hope of getting more photos, preferably nudes from an unsuspecting stranger. 

Point C: TheGirl is expressing the obvious and logical reality that a photo in someone else's hands can and does end up places you might not appreciate, so only a fool allows photos to be taken unless they truly do not care where it will end up. Ever. (ref: Vanessa Williams, former Miss America 1984, stripped of her crown due to the publication in Penthouse of nude photos of her.)

Point D: What was fun and sexy in your youth is not necessarily something you will enjoy explaining to your children many years later. Not that one should refrain from said fun, but that the intersection between the photos and the children might occur at a difficult time and be not only embarrassing but not indicative of one's moral values (either current or former).

My point is that it is far simpler to not indulge in photos than to try to regain ownership of them. Even your own computer can be compromised and photos stolen or seen inadvertently, so using your own camera is no safeguard. 

The larger issue is that it is not possible to be ABSOLUTELY certain of another person. Love and trust are always a gamble, one willingly taken as the gains far outweigh the risks. As was clear from some posts here it is as possible that a woman will share or abuse photos as a man will. (Abuse meaning use against the subject in the photo.) Some might say men would care less about nude photos of them running around the net, but what if they appear on a gay porn site? So both men and women have something to lose.

It can be a tough question. Everyone's choice should be respected. But ... there are always asshats who will take clandestine "upskirt" photos, etc etc. What might sound like harmless fun for twenty-something guys to share becomes something different when they do it to ridicule older women or when older men do it to young girls (as happened in a student-teacher situation in my area in the past 6 months). 

My bottom line is that I believe that anyone who allows someone to take photos (esp digital) of them is giving that person defacto license to use or abuse those photos in whatever way they choose. Granted they have not signed a release but that is irrelevant on the anonymous web.
 
All of that having been said, I for one am TRULY grateful that so many lovely and obviously willing women allow a wide, wide range of nude photos to be taken of them and shared freely. Web porn has truly changed MY life as woman, and even if I don't want my own photos scattered about at random I am immensely happy that there are people who are so confident in their own self and sexuality that they  do what I won't. God bless them all!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: How does one tell the asshats from the angels?? </p>
<p>Point A: People marry their &#8220;one and only&#8221; and x years later the divorce is brutal, both sexes do vile things to the former &#8220;love of their life&#8221;. </p>
<p>Point B: It is well known that men troll craigslist W4W with &#8216;fake&#8217; stolen photos of women in order to interact with women who (obviously) want nothing to do with men; as a result the &#8216;pic for pic&#8217; request is usually a sure sign that a guy is trolling in the hope of getting more photos, preferably nudes from an unsuspecting stranger. </p>
<p>Point C: TheGirl is expressing the obvious and logical reality that a photo in someone else&#8217;s hands can and does end up places you might not appreciate, so only a fool allows photos to be taken unless they truly do not care where it will end up. Ever. (ref: Vanessa Williams, former Miss America 1984, stripped of her crown due to the publication in Penthouse of nude photos of her.)</p>
<p>Point D: What was fun and sexy in your youth is not necessarily something you will enjoy explaining to your children many years later. Not that one should refrain from said fun, but that the intersection between the photos and the children might occur at a difficult time and be not only embarrassing but not indicative of one&#8217;s moral values (either current or former).</p>
<p>My point is that it is far simpler to not indulge in photos than to try to regain ownership of them. Even your own computer can be compromised and photos stolen or seen inadvertently, so using your own camera is no safeguard. </p>
<p>The larger issue is that it is not possible to be ABSOLUTELY certain of another person. Love and trust are always a gamble, one willingly taken as the gains far outweigh the risks. As was clear from some posts here it is as possible that a woman will share or abuse photos as a man will. (Abuse meaning use against the subject in the photo.) Some might say men would care less about nude photos of them running around the net, but what if they appear on a gay porn site? So both men and women have something to lose.</p>
<p>It can be a tough question. Everyone&#8217;s choice should be respected. But &#8230; there are always asshats who will take clandestine &#8220;upskirt&#8221; photos, etc etc. What might sound like harmless fun for twenty-something guys to share becomes something different when they do it to ridicule older women or when older men do it to young girls (as happened in a student-teacher situation in my area in the past 6 months). </p>
<p>My bottom line is that I believe that anyone who allows someone to take photos (esp digital) of them is giving that person defacto license to use or abuse those photos in whatever way they choose. Granted they have not signed a release but that is irrelevant on the anonymous web.</p>
<p>All of that having been said, I for one am TRULY grateful that so many lovely and obviously willing women allow a wide, wide range of nude photos to be taken of them and shared freely. Web porn has truly changed MY life as woman, and even if I don&#8217;t want my own photos scattered about at random I am immensely happy that there are people who are so confident in their own self and sexuality that they  do what I won&#8217;t. God bless them all!!</p>
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		<title>By: Puredog</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/16/no-gentlemen-no-sex-pictures/#comment-6205</link>
		<dc:creator>Puredog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are not all of us dicks, some of us are too technologically challenged to upload files.  So there's another layer of protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are not all of us dicks, some of us are too technologically challenged to upload files.  So there&#8217;s another layer of protection.</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
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		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bacchus, I *know* that not every picture will be abused, and not every man would do that. But I can understand why someone would lose faith when a quick look on the web suggests that the odds are so severely stacked against such privacy.

Taking pictures is a lot of fun, and its sad to think that women will miss out on the fun because of the behaviour of some arsehole. I'd suggest that they take the advice of one the girls commentors - only use your camera, the pictures are yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bacchus, I *know* that not every picture will be abused, and not every man would do that. But I can understand why someone would lose faith when a quick look on the web suggests that the odds are so severely stacked against such privacy.</p>
<p>Taking pictures is a lot of fun, and its sad to think that women will miss out on the fun because of the behaviour of some arsehole. I&#8217;d suggest that they take the advice of one the girls commentors - only use your camera, the pictures are yours.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilBlueDress</title>
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		<dc:creator>DevilBlueDress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are good men.  There are pictures taken.  There are women that wonder what happen to ones taken when they were younger.  And women that know they could take a hell of a much sexier picture now.  And might with a lover.  Good men sometimes change- and there is no right and wrong over time.  Reality is that she's not comfortable taking pictures.  If she's worried about digital pictures on the internet- have the pictures taken with old fashioned film...  But I don't think that's the real issue.  It goes more to her confort level, and things that she can't admit.  It's wrong to say it's always going to be because of the men though.  Something she should own up to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are good men.  There are pictures taken.  There are women that wonder what happen to ones taken when they were younger.  And women that know they could take a hell of a much sexier picture now.  And might with a lover.  Good men sometimes change- and there is no right and wrong over time.  Reality is that she&#8217;s not comfortable taking pictures.  If she&#8217;s worried about digital pictures on the internet- have the pictures taken with old fashioned film&#8230;  But I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the real issue.  It goes more to her confort level, and things that she can&#8217;t admit.  It&#8217;s wrong to say it&#8217;s always going to be because of the men though.  Something she should own up to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/16/no-gentlemen-no-sex-pictures/#comment-6179</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I'm gonna say is- I've taken many pictures and some videos- and NOT ONCE have they gotten posted. Just don't be a jerk; half the time, I bet they get posted because of pressure from 'friends'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I&#8217;m gonna say is- I&#8217;ve taken many pictures and some videos- and NOT ONCE have they gotten posted. Just don&#8217;t be a jerk; half the time, I bet they get posted because of pressure from &#8216;friends&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tibialmusician</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tibialmusician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zak, This is very true, but at the same time I think it is possible to be stable intelligent etc, etc (Not trying to imply myself honestly) And simply end up getting snowed by someone. 

 It does happen. 

I don't think if it does it honestly means you're only attracted to guys who want to screw you over unless it starts happening say every single time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zak, This is very true, but at the same time I think it is possible to be stable intelligent etc, etc (Not trying to imply myself honestly) And simply end up getting snowed by someone. </p>
<p> It does happen. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think if it does it honestly means you&#8217;re only attracted to guys who want to screw you over unless it starts happening say every single time.</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
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		<dc:creator>red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Bacchus....love the new template!!!  Wordpress IS the way....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Bacchus&#8230;.love the new template!!!  Wordpress IS the way&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Freya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh "truth is relative" is balderdash! Truth is truth. You can speak from your experience but to extrapolate that out into a universal truth isn't accurate or fair.

Are some men dicks? Hell yes! I've known a lot of women whose pictures have shown up online during and after a relationship. However, in every case you could take one look at the dude and know he was capable of such asshatery.

Not every man is a cad. Some are and yes, when you let someone take nekkid pics of you, you should keep in mind who you're exposing yourself to. And sometimes you're wrong and the person you trusted is a prick. But not all the time.

Shrugh. I don't buy that all men are such assholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8220;truth is relative&#8221; is balderdash! Truth is truth. You can speak from your experience but to extrapolate that out into a universal truth isn&#8217;t accurate or fair.</p>
<p>Are some men dicks? Hell yes! I&#8217;ve known a lot of women whose pictures have shown up online during and after a relationship. However, in every case you could take one look at the dude and know he was capable of such asshatery.</p>
<p>Not every man is a cad. Some are and yes, when you let someone take nekkid pics of you, you should keep in mind who you&#8217;re exposing yourself to. And sometimes you&#8217;re wrong and the person you trusted is a prick. But not all the time.</p>
<p>Shrugh. I don&#8217;t buy that all men are such assholes.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a tangent sticking off this whole concept. Some people are so fucked in the head that the only people they let close to them are ones who will fuck them over. This is because of the aforementioned head-fuckedness. It means, from their practical perspective, indeed everyone they're attracted to is horrible and wants to screw them over.

What they're not seeing is that they are actually &lt;i&gt;attracted&lt;/i&gt; to this. Non-asshole traits simply don't appear on the radar of these folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a tangent sticking off this whole concept. Some people are so fucked in the head that the only people they let close to them are ones who will fuck them over. This is because of the aforementioned head-fuckedness. It means, from their practical perspective, indeed everyone they&#8217;re attracted to is horrible and wants to screw them over.</p>
<p>What they&#8217;re not seeing is that they are actually <i>attracted</i> to this. Non-asshole traits simply don&#8217;t appear on the radar of these folks.</p>
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