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		<title>By: Lil</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6577</link>
		<dc:creator>Lil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 05:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was complaining that you didn't come properly?  *Complaining?*  WTF?!!

What would you think about a gal pal who complained that you didn't properly eat the ice cream sundae she bought you?  Or if your mother complained that you didn't properly wrap the gift you gave her on Xmas?  Or a roommate who complained that you didn't properly water her plants?

Wouldn't you see a reaction like that from a friend or a relative as emotional manipulation of the very nastiest sort?  Not to mention controlling, petty, rude, and dysfunctional?  

Please consider whether, in the future, you want to put up with your boy complaining about a wide variety of other things that he thinks you aren't doing properly.  For a man to complain about something GOOD that happened in bed, and then to add insult to injury by criticizing your sexual response, I have a difficult time believing he isn't dysfunctionally domineering in many other ways.  Most men would be jumping for joy that they not only helped you achieve orgasm, but that it happened more than once!

Hell, most men would be jumping for joy that they got laid by an enthusiastic &#38; sensual partner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was complaining that you didn&#8217;t come properly?  *Complaining?*  WTF?!!</p>
<p>What would you think about a gal pal who complained that you didn&#8217;t properly eat the ice cream sundae she bought you?  Or if your mother complained that you didn&#8217;t properly wrap the gift you gave her on Xmas?  Or a roommate who complained that you didn&#8217;t properly water her plants?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you see a reaction like that from a friend or a relative as emotional manipulation of the very nastiest sort?  Not to mention controlling, petty, rude, and dysfunctional?  </p>
<p>Please consider whether, in the future, you want to put up with your boy complaining about a wide variety of other things that he thinks you aren&#8217;t doing properly.  For a man to complain about something GOOD that happened in bed, and then to add insult to injury by criticizing your sexual response, I have a difficult time believing he isn&#8217;t dysfunctionally domineering in many other ways.  Most men would be jumping for joy that they not only helped you achieve orgasm, but that it happened more than once!</p>
<p>Hell, most men would be jumping for joy that they got laid by an enthusiastic &amp; sensual partner!</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6495</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we get a follow-up on this story?  We are all still holding our breaths waiting for the outcome on this one.  This is a blog of happy endings and we need to know that J gets the O and all cums out well in the end...

Thanks, Rex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we get a follow-up on this story?  We are all still holding our breaths waiting for the outcome on this one.  This is a blog of happy endings and we need to know that J gets the O and all cums out well in the end&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, Rex</p>
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		<title>By: silvia</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6388</link>
		<dc:creator>silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 10:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it sounds like some deeper issue to me. maybe you guys just need to talk.
I'm not a very loud person myself, but I never heard a boyfriend tell me I'm faking it. I guess it's a matter of perspective. and feelings we might have definately alter our perspective. maybe he's hiding something and that energy comes out by blaming you of faking. be careful, I say. best of luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it sounds like some deeper issue to me. maybe you guys just need to talk.<br />
I&#8217;m not a very loud person myself, but I never heard a boyfriend tell me I&#8217;m faking it. I guess it&#8217;s a matter of perspective. and feelings we might have definately alter our perspective. maybe he&#8217;s hiding something and that energy comes out by blaming you of faking. be careful, I say. best of luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Colette</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6313</link>
		<dc:creator>Colette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's strange isn't it? I had to explain to the Boy once that it didn't matter whether I was orgasming every time. As long as I was participating I was enjoying myself very much.
That said- I orgasm often, about 3 or 4 times when we have sex, but mostly very quietly. I find that bigger orgasms tend to cut down on my ability to function, like my brain turns off for a little bit or something, and sometimes I really don't want that.
But I did realize that I was being very quiet about my reactions to what he was doing and have been trying to be a little more audible in my reactions. Been encouraging him to do so as well. Like a highlighter pen or something, just making certain lines a little more obvious. heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s strange isn&#8217;t it? I had to explain to the Boy once that it didn&#8217;t matter whether I was orgasming every time. As long as I was participating I was enjoying myself very much.<br />
That said- I orgasm often, about 3 or 4 times when we have sex, but mostly very quietly. I find that bigger orgasms tend to cut down on my ability to function, like my brain turns off for a little bit or something, and sometimes I really don&#8217;t want that.<br />
But I did realize that I was being very quiet about my reactions to what he was doing and have been trying to be a little more audible in my reactions. Been encouraging him to do so as well. Like a highlighter pen or something, just making certain lines a little more obvious. heh.</p>
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		<title>By: auburnmuse</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6291</link>
		<dc:creator>auburnmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time I tried to explain different types of o's, I used this: They are like snowflakes. All snowflakes are completely unique, no two are the same. There are different categories you could sort them into (clitoral, vaginal, flurries of little ones, big fat fluffy ones, clenching, loose and wavy, slow and fluttery, noisy, silent and shuddery...) but each one is singular. Time, place stimulus, thoughts, feelings -- what is that old saying? You never dip your foot into the same river twice. I've actually had someone try to shame me out of having a big noisy o! The noise discomfitted them, made them (THEM!) self-conscious. eesh. Explore with him when you mend this fence. The sights (the sex flush on your chest -- why do you think men like women who blush?, yes, sometimes engorged labia, or a clit convulsing like a nose when you sneeze), the sounds (if you feel like it, or paying attention to breathing rate, heart rate), the sensations. Gentleness, understanding, education and communication will fill this breach. My very best hopes for you two!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I tried to explain different types of o&#8217;s, I used this: They are like snowflakes. All snowflakes are completely unique, no two are the same. There are different categories you could sort them into (clitoral, vaginal, flurries of little ones, big fat fluffy ones, clenching, loose and wavy, slow and fluttery, noisy, silent and shuddery&#8230;) but each one is singular. Time, place stimulus, thoughts, feelings &#8212; what is that old saying? You never dip your foot into the same river twice. I&#8217;ve actually had someone try to shame me out of having a big noisy o! The noise discomfitted them, made them (THEM!) self-conscious. eesh. Explore with him when you mend this fence. The sights (the sex flush on your chest &#8212; why do you think men like women who blush?, yes, sometimes engorged labia, or a clit convulsing like a nose when you sneeze), the sounds (if you feel like it, or paying attention to breathing rate, heart rate), the sensations. Gentleness, understanding, education and communication will fill this breach. My very best hopes for you two!</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6241</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex is more than orgasm.  Especially the particular species of orgasm under consideration, massive squirt, minisquirt, chaining waves, little poppers, the big O,  the little riffle, etc. Intromission is superlative. Warm fuzzy contentment is underrated. Deep union and loss of self crests way above orgasm.

Being attentive and curious, I have noticed that women are different, and women are different over time, just like I would suppose that men are different.  Satisfaction of one's desire is what is important.  Sometimes that explicitly excludes orgasm, sometimes they don't matter, usually it includes it.  

My wife orgasmed the first time I kissed her. She was alarmed and ashamed, but quite fortunately got over that. Later on she told me that she was afraid that I knew she had come at that moment, and of course I told her that it meant we had found true love. That was definitely a tremendous plus for me, but that was neither my responsibility or my creation it was hers.  It was her response to me, at that time, in that place.

Since then she tells me that she will even orgasm if I grope her in my sleep, yet she had great difficulty orgasming with others.  With all this, she still reports that there are times when her orgasms are occasionally far away or muted as the result of physical conditions, other concerns, or just because.  The converse is also true.  Sometimes orgasms will just seem to spring from nowhere with a touch.  Sometimes sex is about much more important things than orgasm.

My first wife and one other lover could never have more than one orgasm.  Sex became extremely painful for them after the first orgasm, one of them hated continuing sex after orgasm, while the other desired that pain most of all.

The real issue becomes one of trust.  Can I satisfy you? Do I satisfy you?  Do you have unfilled desire such that you might not be happy with me, that I might be inadequate. Or can I accept that you have that special joy with me even if, at this time, or this month or this year isn't quite what I would like for us?

Strangely enough, though my wife and I shared a social circle for two years before dating, she refused my attempts at interaction and would back away when I approached her. A mutual friend broke one barrier, which led to four dates and then the kiss that rocked the world. My wife later confided that she had avoided me previously, because she thought I was a gay accountant and wondered why I wanted to talk to her.  After the kiss that rocked the world, she became obsessed with the idea that I was an axe murderer -- actually I am a biochemist with a strong interest in scientific computing.  She claims before, and I know since, that she doesn't normally classify people that way or have delusions about them.  Obviously, she was terrified of the underlying attraction between us, whatever that strange thing called love is.

A relationship is what it is. What happens at any time, is what happens at that time. While understanding is most important, preconceived metrics and goals belong at work, not in romantic life.  Relationships are very strange in the wonderful sense, it is best not to have preconceived ideas about what should happen in them.

The mutual friend that brought us together is a much older woman, who we both love dearly.  My relationship with this older woman has grown from simple flirting to practically having phone sex at the dinner table (somewhat of an exaggeration), but is a strong platonic friendship when my wife is not around.  Life is curious, relationships are curious. I would never have believed that these two women would become so central to my existence. One a real lover, the other a fantasy lover.

We are still held back from the true depth of our relationships with others because of our taboos and expectations.  For me, probably because of my background, I try the scientific approach.  No, not clinical, but rather like any healthy three year old I explore and evaluate as best I can to understand and enjoy what is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sex is more than orgasm.  Especially the particular species of orgasm under consideration, massive squirt, minisquirt, chaining waves, little poppers, the big O,  the little riffle, etc. Intromission is superlative. Warm fuzzy contentment is underrated. Deep union and loss of self crests way above orgasm.</p>
<p>Being attentive and curious, I have noticed that women are different, and women are different over time, just like I would suppose that men are different.  Satisfaction of one&#8217;s desire is what is important.  Sometimes that explicitly excludes orgasm, sometimes they don&#8217;t matter, usually it includes it.  </p>
<p>My wife orgasmed the first time I kissed her. She was alarmed and ashamed, but quite fortunately got over that. Later on she told me that she was afraid that I knew she had come at that moment, and of course I told her that it meant we had found true love. That was definitely a tremendous plus for me, but that was neither my responsibility or my creation it was hers.  It was her response to me, at that time, in that place.</p>
<p>Since then she tells me that she will even orgasm if I grope her in my sleep, yet she had great difficulty orgasming with others.  With all this, she still reports that there are times when her orgasms are occasionally far away or muted as the result of physical conditions, other concerns, or just because.  The converse is also true.  Sometimes orgasms will just seem to spring from nowhere with a touch.  Sometimes sex is about much more important things than orgasm.</p>
<p>My first wife and one other lover could never have more than one orgasm.  Sex became extremely painful for them after the first orgasm, one of them hated continuing sex after orgasm, while the other desired that pain most of all.</p>
<p>The real issue becomes one of trust.  Can I satisfy you? Do I satisfy you?  Do you have unfilled desire such that you might not be happy with me, that I might be inadequate. Or can I accept that you have that special joy with me even if, at this time, or this month or this year isn&#8217;t quite what I would like for us?</p>
<p>Strangely enough, though my wife and I shared a social circle for two years before dating, she refused my attempts at interaction and would back away when I approached her. A mutual friend broke one barrier, which led to four dates and then the kiss that rocked the world. My wife later confided that she had avoided me previously, because she thought I was a gay accountant and wondered why I wanted to talk to her.  After the kiss that rocked the world, she became obsessed with the idea that I was an axe murderer &#8212; actually I am a biochemist with a strong interest in scientific computing.  She claims before, and I know since, that she doesn&#8217;t normally classify people that way or have delusions about them.  Obviously, she was terrified of the underlying attraction between us, whatever that strange thing called love is.</p>
<p>A relationship is what it is. What happens at any time, is what happens at that time. While understanding is most important, preconceived metrics and goals belong at work, not in romantic life.  Relationships are very strange in the wonderful sense, it is best not to have preconceived ideas about what should happen in them.</p>
<p>The mutual friend that brought us together is a much older woman, who we both love dearly.  My relationship with this older woman has grown from simple flirting to practically having phone sex at the dinner table (somewhat of an exaggeration), but is a strong platonic friendship when my wife is not around.  Life is curious, relationships are curious. I would never have believed that these two women would become so central to my existence. One a real lover, the other a fantasy lover.</p>
<p>We are still held back from the true depth of our relationships with others because of our taboos and expectations.  For me, probably because of my background, I try the scientific approach.  No, not clinical, but rather like any healthy three year old I explore and evaluate as best I can to understand and enjoy what is.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven Bearwolf</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6239</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven Bearwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mother eart is that way.... she has many many small earthquakes and then big ones. He needs to learn not to be obsessed about his performance in pleasing you and focus on just appreciating each other in bed. Besides the point of sex is not the big O but the feeling of being together and touching each other. If he cant understand that then thats his loss. 

Namaste,

Raven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mother eart is that way&#8230;. she has many many small earthquakes and then big ones. He needs to learn not to be obsessed about his performance in pleasing you and focus on just appreciating each other in bed. Besides the point of sex is not the big O but the feeling of being together and touching each other. If he cant understand that then thats his loss. </p>
<p>Namaste,</p>
<p>Raven</p>
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		<title>By: Alaynesthoughts</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6236</link>
		<dc:creator>Alaynesthoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>‘O’ he needs to get over himself… I have Big explosive ones and small ruptures… I think every woman does to some point (IF they orgasm at all). 
I can have a nice slight one just thinking about sex… just enough to keep ME happy…Or an explosive tsunami one that rocks the entire block, with a little help from the husband/vibrator/whatever works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘O’ he needs to get over himself… I have Big explosive ones and small ruptures… I think every woman does to some point (IF they orgasm at all).<br />
I can have a nice slight one just thinking about sex… just enough to keep ME happy…Or an explosive tsunami one that rocks the entire block, with a little help from the husband/vibrator/whatever works!</p>
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		<title>By: ESC</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6235</link>
		<dc:creator>ESC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am SO right there with you, Aphrodite!!!  It is DEFINATELY possible to have different kinds of orgasms! 

I also orgasm frequently, while they are all wonderful, most of the time they are...well, let's call them the every day orgasms.  It's great...but it's not like the earth moved and the angel choir sang and a light shone down...you get the picture.  There's a sweet release...and then...ahhhh....

But sometimes, when we take our time, and Kev takes care to push all the right buttons in the right order, and slowly, slowly SLOWLY builds me to the brink of insanity...and then pushes me over...well THOSE orgasms are of the super special rare variety.  The "pissing off the neighbors with the noise" variety.  The kind where I can't stop sobbing for 10 minutes afterwards (OK, I'm weird like that).  

Those don't happen every day.  They are special, and we enjoy them.  But we also enjoy the orgasms that happen in between those times.  They are different, but still good.

It seems like J needs to get a grip on his ego, there.  Or maybe an ex frequently faked, and he's overly paranoid?  He needs to understand that women are much more complicated than men (duh!) and can orgasm in multiple different ways, and while each of those ways may not earth shattering, they are ALL good.  

 And way to go with the nipple stimulating orgas!  mine are very sensitive, but I've yet to orgasm with that alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am SO right there with you, Aphrodite!!!  It is DEFINATELY possible to have different kinds of orgasms! </p>
<p>I also orgasm frequently, while they are all wonderful, most of the time they are&#8230;well, let&#8217;s call them the every day orgasms.  It&#8217;s great&#8230;but it&#8217;s not like the earth moved and the angel choir sang and a light shone down&#8230;you get the picture.  There&#8217;s a sweet release&#8230;and then&#8230;ahhhh&#8230;.</p>
<p>But sometimes, when we take our time, and Kev takes care to push all the right buttons in the right order, and slowly, slowly SLOWLY builds me to the brink of insanity&#8230;and then pushes me over&#8230;well THOSE orgasms are of the super special rare variety.  The &#8220;pissing off the neighbors with the noise&#8221; variety.  The kind where I can&#8217;t stop sobbing for 10 minutes afterwards (OK, I&#8217;m weird like that).  </p>
<p>Those don&#8217;t happen every day.  They are special, and we enjoy them.  But we also enjoy the orgasms that happen in between those times.  They are different, but still good.</p>
<p>It seems like J needs to get a grip on his ego, there.  Or maybe an ex frequently faked, and he&#8217;s overly paranoid?  He needs to understand that women are much more complicated than men (duh!) and can orgasm in multiple different ways, and while each of those ways may not earth shattering, they are ALL good.  </p>
<p> And way to go with the nipple stimulating orgas!  mine are very sensitive, but I&#8217;ve yet to orgasm with that alone.</p>
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		<title>By: witchnwtx</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/07/19/our-first-fight/#comment-6234</link>
		<dc:creator>witchnwtx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After working in a family planning clinic, I have found that not only men, but women as well, have questions on what a real orgasm is.  

Yes there are many types of orgasm and all of them enjoyable.  And for me, sometimes not having one can be as much fun.  Times when I am really focused on my partner and I am completely into what sounds they make, the way their body reacts, and how what I do influences their reactions--well, sometimes I put off my orgasm just to enjoy that.  

I wish everyone would give up the myth of the One True Orgasm.  If you are enjoying the sex, then don't worry about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After working in a family planning clinic, I have found that not only men, but women as well, have questions on what a real orgasm is.  </p>
<p>Yes there are many types of orgasm and all of them enjoyable.  And for me, sometimes not having one can be as much fun.  Times when I am really focused on my partner and I am completely into what sounds they make, the way their body reacts, and how what I do influences their reactions&#8211;well, sometimes I put off my orgasm just to enjoy that.  </p>
<p>I wish everyone would give up the myth of the One True Orgasm.  If you are enjoying the sex, then don&#8217;t worry about it.</p>
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