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	<title>Comments on: Sex Doll Accident</title>
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		<title>By: koshka</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-8937</link>
		<dc:creator>koshka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grown-ups realize that a lover you can trust who accepts your kinks is worth way more than pursuing fantasies in real life.  My man's fantasies are really kinda tame compared to mine.  I think men get a little freaked out when they find out just how wild a woman's inner sexual life really is.  It's getting better, but we still can't/don't express ourselves equally when it comes to lust.
That's it!  Thank you Bacchus, figleaf, Magdalena, Phillip Clark, and all you people who put it out there.  You folks have helped me understand a lot of human nature, not just sexuality.  I do love a puzzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grown-ups realize that a lover you can trust who accepts your kinks is worth way more than pursuing fantasies in real life.  My man&#8217;s fantasies are really kinda tame compared to mine.  I think men get a little freaked out when they find out just how wild a woman&#8217;s inner sexual life really is.  It&#8217;s getting better, but we still can&#8217;t/don&#8217;t express ourselves equally when it comes to lust.<br />
That&#8217;s it!  Thank you Bacchus, figleaf, Magdalena, Phillip Clark, and all you people who put it out there.  You folks have helped me understand a lot of human nature, not just sexuality.  I do love a puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-8664</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do men feel about phallic toys being larger than the average male?

FINE. It's fantasy. Who would I be to say that no woman deserves to play with a phallus bigger than a 'regular' penis? That's BS. It's called creative license, from a design standpoint. Not to mention the many women who just love to be filled and stretched by something they might not otherwise get the chance at...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do men feel about phallic toys being larger than the average male?</p>
<p>FINE. It&#8217;s fantasy. Who would I be to say that no woman deserves to play with a phallus bigger than a &#8216;regular&#8217; penis? That&#8217;s BS. It&#8217;s called creative license, from a design standpoint. Not to mention the many women who just love to be filled and stretched by something they might not otherwise get the chance at&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Depp</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-7829</link>
		<dc:creator>Depp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can'understandall the brouhaha raised by cheryl...

By her own admission she says "I have on only the rarest of occasions, seen a clitoris that large and pronounced" (22nd aug).

Even if it's rare, then why can't she accept that the doll is question might have been made keeping in mind those rare vulvas.

And, moreover, for cheryl, it seems to be a clear case of "What I haven't seen, doesn't exist"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;understandall the brouhaha raised by cheryl&#8230;</p>
<p>By her own admission she says &#8220;I have on only the rarest of occasions, seen a clitoris that large and pronounced&#8221; (22nd aug).</p>
<p>Even if it&#8217;s rare, then why can&#8217;t she accept that the doll is question might have been made keeping in mind those rare vulvas.</p>
<p>And, moreover, for cheryl, it seems to be a clear case of &#8220;What I haven&#8217;t seen, doesn&#8217;t exist&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-7618</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 03:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't agree with you more about phallic sex toys, Koshka.  I wonder how &lt;i&gt;men&lt;/i&gt; feel about that?  Surely, it's got to be as disturbing to them as the caricaturism of female anatomy is to me yet I've never heard them discuss it.  Never seen it discussed in the blogosphere, either, though I might just be in the wrong places.  

And, Koshka...now you know what to ask for from your husband for Christmas, if you can wait that long.  : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more about phallic sex toys, Koshka.  I wonder how <i>men</i> feel about that?  Surely, it&#8217;s got to be as disturbing to them as the caricaturism of female anatomy is to me yet I&#8217;ve never heard them discuss it.  Never seen it discussed in the blogosphere, either, though I might just be in the wrong places.  </p>
<p>And, Koshka&#8230;now you know what to ask for from your husband for Christmas, if you can wait that long.  : )</p>
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		<title>By: koshka</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-7586</link>
		<dc:creator>koshka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phallic sex toys and male porn stars also misrepresent the reality and variety of the average male body.  They are idealized larger-than-life fantasies.  The problem comes for the people who can't separate the two and expect that cartoonish perfection in their real life partners.

Ever see those ancient fertility figurines?  How about those impossibly perfect, romantic sexual machines in romance novels and fanfics?  There've always been sexual ideals that many (most) can't meet.  I'm glad we see it, recognize it, and come here and talk about it.  

Now I'm going to watch the porn I downloaded last night with the huge beautiful black man with tattoos who looks nothing like my husband.  My husband likes to look at BIG boobs, which I don't have.  We still love sex with each other after 18 years.  It has everything to do with me showing him I accept every kinky bone in his body and me realizing he accepts me the same way.

Last thought:  I have totally wanted to try the male version of that doll ever since I saw it on Realsex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phallic sex toys and male porn stars also misrepresent the reality and variety of the average male body.  They are idealized larger-than-life fantasies.  The problem comes for the people who can&#8217;t separate the two and expect that cartoonish perfection in their real life partners.</p>
<p>Ever see those ancient fertility figurines?  How about those impossibly perfect, romantic sexual machines in romance novels and fanfics?  There&#8217;ve always been sexual ideals that many (most) can&#8217;t meet.  I&#8217;m glad we see it, recognize it, and come here and talk about it.  </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m going to watch the porn I downloaded last night with the huge beautiful black man with tattoos who looks nothing like my husband.  My husband likes to look at BIG boobs, which I don&#8217;t have.  We still love sex with each other after 18 years.  It has everything to do with me showing him I accept every kinky bone in his body and me realizing he accepts me the same way.</p>
<p>Last thought:  I have totally wanted to try the male version of that doll ever since I saw it on Realsex.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-7569</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I said was useless was "practicing" clitoral stimulation on a manequin.  The only way to &lt;i&gt;truly&lt;/i&gt; gauge the effectiveness of clitoral stimulation is via &lt;i&gt;direct&lt;/i&gt; feedback from your &lt;i&gt;female partner&lt;/i&gt;.  I don't see how anything positive (for a future female partner) is to be gained from practicing strokes or licks or tongue flicks on a doll.  The doll can't tell you to ease up or move a little to the left, "yeah, there..."  

Now, if one has been given a specific "homework" assignment from a present female partner on which to practice, then I guess I could understand the concept of practicing.  Or perhaps as an exercise aide for those less endowed with facial, particularly lingual, muscles.  That's a valid reason.

I hadn't considered the visual aspect of it and that's very valid, I admit.  

I think I may have to give up ErosBlog, sadly.  I realized, as I read your response to my comments, that this is a feminist issue for me.  My commentary was primarily directed at the &lt;i&gt;design&lt;/i&gt; of the doll.  As a nurse for 22 years, 17 of them in inpatient Women's Health and, to a lesser degree, as a lesbian, I have seen a &lt;b&gt;lot&lt;/b&gt; of vulvas.  I have on only the rarest of occasions, seen a clitoris that large and pronounced.  

My issue is not with a man who derives his sexual pleasure from the use of such a doll.  Please.  Everyone should do what pleases them, as long as no one is being hurt against their will.  

My issue is with the distortion of normal female anatomy in the &lt;i&gt;design&lt;/i&gt; of the doll.  This doll does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; represent the &lt;b&gt;vast&lt;/b&gt; majority of the women in the world.  My issue is with a culture that perpetuates these kind of myths about women.  So many of those myths have cause so much pain for many women already.  Isn't it time we tried to stop?

This is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; "realism."  (Though the thought of a vulva completely devoid of a clit is even &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; appealing to me) This is a fallacy and &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; is part of the problem.  Are there any sex dolls out there that are genuinely realistic or does this represent the vast majority of this type of product available.  I have to admit I don't know myself because I have my own areas of interest when I'm on those sites.

I grant anyone the right to do whatever s/he wishes and with whomever (assuming consenting adults and no unwanted pain, etc., etc...).  But, to me, it's equally important to discuss areas that so directly impact on sex and sexual relationships, namely how men and women see themselves and each other.  Sex is a lot more than the meeting of flesh.  It's soooo brain-based andI don't think I can separate my passion for women's rights and gaining the respect we deserve enough to keep my blooming mouth shut.

Thank you for the fun I've had here and I wish you well, Bacchus.  I have (mostly) enjoyed myself.  Fare well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I said was useless was &#8220;practicing&#8221; clitoral stimulation on a manequin.  The only way to <i>truly</i> gauge the effectiveness of clitoral stimulation is via <i>direct</i> feedback from your <i>female partner</i>.  I don&#8217;t see how anything positive (for a future female partner) is to be gained from practicing strokes or licks or tongue flicks on a doll.  The doll can&#8217;t tell you to ease up or move a little to the left, &#8220;yeah, there&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>Now, if one has been given a specific &#8220;homework&#8221; assignment from a present female partner on which to practice, then I guess I could understand the concept of practicing.  Or perhaps as an exercise aide for those less endowed with facial, particularly lingual, muscles.  That&#8217;s a valid reason.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t considered the visual aspect of it and that&#8217;s very valid, I admit.  </p>
<p>I think I may have to give up ErosBlog, sadly.  I realized, as I read your response to my comments, that this is a feminist issue for me.  My commentary was primarily directed at the <i>design</i> of the doll.  As a nurse for 22 years, 17 of them in inpatient Women&#8217;s Health and, to a lesser degree, as a lesbian, I have seen a <b>lot</b> of vulvas.  I have on only the rarest of occasions, seen a clitoris that large and pronounced.  </p>
<p>My issue is not with a man who derives his sexual pleasure from the use of such a doll.  Please.  Everyone should do what pleases them, as long as no one is being hurt against their will.  </p>
<p>My issue is with the distortion of normal female anatomy in the <i>design</i> of the doll.  This doll does <i>not</i> represent the <b>vast</b> majority of the women in the world.  My issue is with a culture that perpetuates these kind of myths about women.  So many of those myths have cause so much pain for many women already.  Isn&#8217;t it time we tried to stop?</p>
<p>This is <b>not</b> &#8220;realism.&#8221;  (Though the thought of a vulva completely devoid of a clit is even <i>less</i> appealing to me) This is a fallacy and <b>that</b> is part of the problem.  Are there any sex dolls out there that are genuinely realistic or does this represent the vast majority of this type of product available.  I have to admit I don&#8217;t know myself because I have my own areas of interest when I&#8217;m on those sites.</p>
<p>I grant anyone the right to do whatever s/he wishes and with whomever (assuming consenting adults and no unwanted pain, etc., etc&#8230;).  But, to me, it&#8217;s equally important to discuss areas that so directly impact on sex and sexual relationships, namely how men and women see themselves and each other.  Sex is a lot more than the meeting of flesh.  It&#8217;s soooo brain-based andI don&#8217;t think I can separate my passion for women&#8217;s rights and gaining the respect we deserve enough to keep my blooming mouth shut.</p>
<p>Thank you for the fun I&#8217;ve had here and I wish you well, Bacchus.  I have (mostly) enjoyed myself.  Fare well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-7505</link>
		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl, I appreciate your contribution to the ErosBlog comments, but I need to warn you that your comments on this subject are treading perilously close to the limits of what is allowed here.  As a matter of editorial policy, I try not to condemn or deride anybody's preferred sexual practice or fetish.  Yes, you'll catch me in a verbal raised eyebrow or gasp of astonishment sometimes, or even gentle teasing of a particularly odd fetish, but I try not to say that anybody's sexual practice is "useless" or offensive.  Nor do I generally allow commenters to do so -- Erosblog is intended to be a relentlessly sex-positive and fetish-tolerant zone.

You crossed the line the littlest bit when you shared your negative and self-confessedly sexist views about "the kind of a man who would have a doll like this."  Simply put, you don't *know* anything about the people who spend thousands of dollars on their doll fetishes, and I won't allow you to continue to snipe at such fetishists in this thread, displaying what you yourself have admitted is a sexist prejudice.

Play nice, OK?  And remember -- or know, if you weren't aware of it -- that a male masturbator can buy a very-realistic-feeling disposable gel pussy in a styrofoam cup for just a few bucks.  If he's paying five or six grand for a human-sized sex doll, there's a good chance there's a strong visual component to his fetish.  Hence, the visible clitoris.

We get that the sex doll doesn't conform to your standards of female beauty.  So find one that does if you're in the market, OK?  But don't come to ErosBlog to bash at the people who (apparently) like the product you're not buying anyway.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl, I appreciate your contribution to the ErosBlog comments, but I need to warn you that your comments on this subject are treading perilously close to the limits of what is allowed here.  As a matter of editorial policy, I try not to condemn or deride anybody&#8217;s preferred sexual practice or fetish.  Yes, you&#8217;ll catch me in a verbal raised eyebrow or gasp of astonishment sometimes, or even gentle teasing of a particularly odd fetish, but I try not to say that anybody&#8217;s sexual practice is &#8220;useless&#8221; or offensive.  Nor do I generally allow commenters to do so &#8212; Erosblog is intended to be a relentlessly sex-positive and fetish-tolerant zone.</p>
<p>You crossed the line the littlest bit when you shared your negative and self-confessedly sexist views about &#8220;the kind of a man who would have a doll like this.&#8221;  Simply put, you don&#8217;t *know* anything about the people who spend thousands of dollars on their doll fetishes, and I won&#8217;t allow you to continue to snipe at such fetishists in this thread, displaying what you yourself have admitted is a sexist prejudice.</p>
<p>Play nice, OK?  And remember &#8212; or know, if you weren&#8217;t aware of it &#8212; that a male masturbator can buy a very-realistic-feeling disposable gel pussy in a styrofoam cup for just a few bucks.  If he&#8217;s paying five or six grand for a human-sized sex doll, there&#8217;s a good chance there&#8217;s a strong visual component to his fetish.  Hence, the visible clitoris.</p>
<p>We get that the sex doll doesn&#8217;t conform to your standards of female beauty.  So find one that does if you&#8217;re in the market, OK?  But don&#8217;t come to ErosBlog to bash at the people who (apparently) like the product you&#8217;re not buying anyway.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-7502</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virgo: I understand about the clit for realism.  (Though to me, it looked so *unrealistic*...not many women have a clit so large it protrudes beyond the hood that much.  And I was a Gyn or OB nurse for 17 years, so I've seen a &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; of vulvas.  Even aroused, I bet it's the rare woman whose clit protrudes so prominently.  Mine is always hooded, regardless the size.  

What I found offensive about the design is that makes the doll look like the worst of female porn workers and so unrealistic when applied to most normal women.  

And the suggestion of 'practicing.'  Well, the only way to "practice" on a clit is with &lt;b&gt;feedback.&lt;/b&gt;  Anything less is utterly useless.  At least as far as the woman's perspective is concerned.  There are no two alike.  Truly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virgo: I understand about the clit for realism.  (Though to me, it looked so *unrealistic*&#8230;not many women have a clit so large it protrudes beyond the hood that much.  And I was a Gyn or OB nurse for 17 years, so I&#8217;ve seen a <i>lot</i> of vulvas.  Even aroused, I bet it&#8217;s the rare woman whose clit protrudes so prominently.  Mine is always hooded, regardless the size.  </p>
<p>What I found offensive about the design is that makes the doll look like the worst of female porn workers and so unrealistic when applied to most normal women.  </p>
<p>And the suggestion of &#8216;practicing.&#8217;  Well, the only way to &#8220;practice&#8221; on a clit is with <b>feedback.</b>  Anything less is utterly useless.  At least as far as the woman&#8217;s perspective is concerned.  There are no two alike.  Truly.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheezedog420</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-7487</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheezedog420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he might of goofed up the fix...  It now only has one hole in the bottom....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he might of goofed up the fix&#8230;  It now only has one hole in the bottom&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Obscura</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/08/19/sex-doll-accident/#comment-7467</link>
		<dc:creator>Obscura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That photo is from the RealDoll Doctor, &lt;a href="http://www.realdolldoctor.com/buttindex.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;he fixes them&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That photo is from the RealDoll Doctor, <a href="http://www.realdolldoctor.com/buttindex.htm" rel="nofollow">he fixes them</a>.</p>
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