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	<title>Comments on: The Great Craigslist Sex Personals Massacre Of 2006</title>
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		<title>By: Piazzola</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/09/11/the-great-craigslist-sex-personals-massacre-of-2006/#comment-9840</link>
		<dc:creator>Piazzola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally, I would agree with you, but in this case -- I read the wiki, and the original ad -- I think it was the guys who are the injured parties here.  The ad really was written precisely to get that sort of response, so why should anyone be surprised when it came?  

If he honestly wanted to make a social sciences experiment of it, he would have gone about the whole thing in a far different fashion.  As it was, the entire "experiment" was sophomoric, and the only clearly discernible intent was to humiliate the responders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally, I would agree with you, but in this case &#8212; I read the wiki, and the original ad &#8212; I think it was the guys who are the injured parties here.  The ad really was written precisely to get that sort of response, so why should anyone be surprised when it came?  </p>
<p>If he honestly wanted to make a social sciences experiment of it, he would have gone about the whole thing in a far different fashion.  As it was, the entire &#8220;experiment&#8221; was sophomoric, and the only clearly discernible intent was to humiliate the responders.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Vigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Vigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, great responses, I certainly learnt a thing or 2 about an issue like this and the results this experiment (which I assume it is) bring.

Personally, I am tired of seeing fellow males degrade others, living in ignorance, an dc continuing to do so for a great portion of their lives.

I would guess that being a female, and being truly interested in exploring sexulaity or connected sensuality means they have to wade through so much mental and projected daebree (um forgot how to spell that) just to get to sincerity.

As for these guys, well....they believe that society puts them at the top by this sort of behaviour. They MUST or else, they wouldnt do it. That one track myopicism keeps them in good company.

So, on principle, I believe that this sort of 'outing' is WAAAYY overdue to happen. 

I dont know if it will stop 2billion other males like them, but hey, gotta start somewhere.

As with privacy, on that note, this was a terrible experiment. 

Eh.....

*my browser cuts off the last 1/5 so I dont know if I have made typing errors*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, great responses, I certainly learnt a thing or 2 about an issue like this and the results this experiment (which I assume it is) bring.</p>
<p>Personally, I am tired of seeing fellow males degrade others, living in ignorance, an dc continuing to do so for a great portion of their lives.</p>
<p>I would guess that being a female, and being truly interested in exploring sexulaity or connected sensuality means they have to wade through so much mental and projected daebree (um forgot how to spell that) just to get to sincerity.</p>
<p>As for these guys, well&#8230;.they believe that society puts them at the top by this sort of behaviour. They MUST or else, they wouldnt do it. That one track myopicism keeps them in good company.</p>
<p>So, on principle, I believe that this sort of &#8216;outing&#8217; is WAAAYY overdue to happen. </p>
<p>I dont know if it will stop 2billion other males like them, but hey, gotta start somewhere.</p>
<p>As with privacy, on that note, this was a terrible experiment. </p>
<p>Eh&#8230;..</p>
<p>*my browser cuts off the last 1/5 so I dont know if I have made typing errors*</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 05:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting naked pictures of one's gf to the internet without her permission is a much greater breach of privacy and trust than what has occured here, and yet it's much more common.

Women on the internet learn very early on to guard their personal information. It's about time men learned to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting naked pictures of one&#8217;s gf to the internet without her permission is a much greater breach of privacy and trust than what has occured here, and yet it&#8217;s much more common.</p>
<p>Women on the internet learn very early on to guard their personal information. It&#8217;s about time men learned to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another one!  

"You could tell she's the kind of girl who wants that sort of treatment..."

Boggle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another one!  </p>
<p>&#8220;You could tell she&#8217;s the kind of girl who wants that sort of treatment&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Boggle.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Larson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general, I agree with your comments.  However, in this instance I don't think the male's who sent dick pics in their reply were off base.

Did you read the actual Craig's List ad?  Clearly, the poster was not the type that would be offended by such things.  She might have actually preferred it.

Anyone who is using Craig's List to find casual encounters is an amatuer.  Their are plenty of sites that offer the same thing in a less anonymous manner.

Just the same, emails should be private.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, I agree with your comments.  However, in this instance I don&#8217;t think the male&#8217;s who sent dick pics in their reply were off base.</p>
<p>Did you read the actual Craig&#8217;s List ad?  Clearly, the poster was not the type that would be offended by such things.  She might have actually preferred it.</p>
<p>Anyone who is using Craig&#8217;s List to find casual encounters is an amatuer.  Their are plenty of sites that offer the same thing in a less anonymous manner.</p>
<p>Just the same, emails should be private.</p>
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		<title>By: Demos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part, I'm in agreement with Bacchus about the privacy of email exchanges.  Remember that obnoxious kid a few years back--a congressional aide to Kay Bailey Hutchison--who broke up with his coworker GF by office email? (Our tax dollars at work!)  He was unbelievably snotty and cruel about it, and the whole thing was badly spelled and punctuated despite his elite education.  She retaliated by publishing the exchange online, and it created a mini-scandal which surely must dog him to this day.

I'd like to float a little theory on the dickpic phenomenon.  I'll disclose that as a reasonably attractive female I may be a tiny, tiny bit jaded.  I believe sending them to be in the same category of actions as crude sexual offers howled by construction workers at female passers-by.  I don't believe these guys think this action will result in any kind of sexual gratification for themselves.  I think the sexual gratification comes to the howler as a result of having forced a female to endure something she doesn't want, and against which she's not able to defend herself.  It's obviously not in any way criminal, nor does it truly injure the gal at whom it was aimed.  It seems to me the same dynamic is at work when a much, much older man flirts aggressively with a very young woman.  I'm talking 30+ years age difference, and chicks who are not yet practiced at rejecting unwanted advances.  The older guys don't think they'll actually score, but it's gratifying to them to watch the women squirm helplessly, knowing they are terrified to hurt men's feelings.  It was Bacchus' description of the sending of dickpics as socially sanctioned flashing that inspired me to post, because I would definitely put flashing into the category I'm describing here.

Ah, I think I really am jaded.  I've submitted this notion to several guy friends of varying ages for review, and it has not been shot down yet, but no doubt someone here has a better understanding of the mental process involved in dickpics.  I'm willing to be enlightened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part, I&#8217;m in agreement with Bacchus about the privacy of email exchanges.  Remember that obnoxious kid a few years back&#8211;a congressional aide to Kay Bailey Hutchison&#8211;who broke up with his coworker GF by office email? (Our tax dollars at work!)  He was unbelievably snotty and cruel about it, and the whole thing was badly spelled and punctuated despite his elite education.  She retaliated by publishing the exchange online, and it created a mini-scandal which surely must dog him to this day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to float a little theory on the dickpic phenomenon.  I&#8217;ll disclose that as a reasonably attractive female I may be a tiny, tiny bit jaded.  I believe sending them to be in the same category of actions as crude sexual offers howled by construction workers at female passers-by.  I don&#8217;t believe these guys think this action will result in any kind of sexual gratification for themselves.  I think the sexual gratification comes to the howler as a result of having forced a female to endure something she doesn&#8217;t want, and against which she&#8217;s not able to defend herself.  It&#8217;s obviously not in any way criminal, nor does it truly injure the gal at whom it was aimed.  It seems to me the same dynamic is at work when a much, much older man flirts aggressively with a very young woman.  I&#8217;m talking 30+ years age difference, and chicks who are not yet practiced at rejecting unwanted advances.  The older guys don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll actually score, but it&#8217;s gratifying to them to watch the women squirm helplessly, knowing they are terrified to hurt men&#8217;s feelings.  It was Bacchus&#8217; description of the sending of dickpics as socially sanctioned flashing that inspired me to post, because I would definitely put flashing into the category I&#8217;m describing here.</p>
<p>Ah, I think I really am jaded.  I&#8217;ve submitted this notion to several guy friends of varying ages for review, and it has not been shot down yet, but no doubt someone here has a better understanding of the mental process involved in dickpics.  I&#8217;m willing to be enlightened.</p>
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		<title>By: aag</title>
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		<dc:creator>aag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kept meaning to write something about this in my own place but this will have to suffice for now.

On the topic of personal privacy:  It might be illegal for personal information to be used in the way that it was used here, but that doesn't mean that those respondents were not complete fools for sending in their information.  

If you receive a hook for a 419 scam and you send identifying information, sure it would be illegal for the scammers to use your information...but that doesn't make it ok for you to send it! If you are phished by a fake bank, hey, send in your identifying information but expect that it will be misused.

Saying in a shocked voice, "But that was illegal!" is not going to keep you from getting scammed and/or exposed.  

Over the years, I've posted maybe a dozen CL ads; in every case I have been exceedingly specific about what I was and was not looking for.  In every case I've gotten well over 100 replies.  In every case I've gotten what I considered to be way too much identifying information.  In every case, even though I specifically prohibited it, I was send dick pictures.  

When we respond to personal ads do we check our brains at the door?  If you would not send out personal information to a nameless, faceless 419 scammer or phisher, why would you send it to a complete stranger?  

Is the hope for sex strong enough to make us completely lose our minds?

(sorry, rant officially over)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kept meaning to write something about this in my own place but this will have to suffice for now.</p>
<p>On the topic of personal privacy:  It might be illegal for personal information to be used in the way that it was used here, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that those respondents were not complete fools for sending in their information.  </p>
<p>If you receive a hook for a 419 scam and you send identifying information, sure it would be illegal for the scammers to use your information&#8230;but that doesn&#8217;t make it ok for you to send it! If you are phished by a fake bank, hey, send in your identifying information but expect that it will be misused.</p>
<p>Saying in a shocked voice, &#8220;But that was illegal!&#8221; is not going to keep you from getting scammed and/or exposed.  </p>
<p>Over the years, I&#8217;ve posted maybe a dozen CL ads; in every case I have been exceedingly specific about what I was and was not looking for.  In every case I&#8217;ve gotten well over 100 replies.  In every case I&#8217;ve gotten what I considered to be way too much identifying information.  In every case, even though I specifically prohibited it, I was send dick pictures.  </p>
<p>When we respond to personal ads do we check our brains at the door?  If you would not send out personal information to a nameless, faceless 419 scammer or phisher, why would you send it to a complete stranger?  </p>
<p>Is the hope for sex strong enough to make us completely lose our minds?</p>
<p>(sorry, rant officially over)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Peck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a big fan of recriprocity under normal situations: if someone is rude to you, feel free to be rude back. If someone offers you a confidence, you are obliged to keep it. If someone shows you their genetalia, you had better show yours back! :)

There's a huge difference between dressing in a certain fashion while walking down the street and actively exposing yourself to the passers-by/browsers of Craigslist. It seems to me that the one "flashing" is the woman who posted the ad!

I'll never argue the point that posting dickpics is a stupid, crude, inneffective way of trying to attract women, but this post set the tone of the interaction. If she truly doesn't want pictures of dicks, then she's going about it completely wrong.

In my humble opinion, if you post an ad in a "gutter" style, you should be expecting responses with a "gutter" flavor. Who knows, maybe "gutter" gets you going. I'm certainly not qualified to say good or bad.

For the record: I have no dogs in this hunt, nor would I ever. My genetalia stay un-photographed, and I'm merely interested in this as a philosophical arguement.

Last thing: I think it's the men who've had their personal privacy raped who are the true victims here, not some imaginary woman who had to see a few extra pictures of wangs. It's kinda backwards to say that THEY asked for what they got. So they made a stupid choice... Not much more stupid than walking down the street in a bad neighborhood with your breasts hanging out of your shirt and your ass hanging out of your shorts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of recriprocity under normal situations: if someone is rude to you, feel free to be rude back. If someone offers you a confidence, you are obliged to keep it. If someone shows you their genetalia, you had better show yours back! :)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a huge difference between dressing in a certain fashion while walking down the street and actively exposing yourself to the passers-by/browsers of Craigslist. It seems to me that the one &#8220;flashing&#8221; is the woman who posted the ad!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never argue the point that posting dickpics is a stupid, crude, inneffective way of trying to attract women, but this post set the tone of the interaction. If she truly doesn&#8217;t want pictures of dicks, then she&#8217;s going about it completely wrong.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, if you post an ad in a &#8220;gutter&#8221; style, you should be expecting responses with a &#8220;gutter&#8221; flavor. Who knows, maybe &#8220;gutter&#8221; gets you going. I&#8217;m certainly not qualified to say good or bad.</p>
<p>For the record: I have no dogs in this hunt, nor would I ever. My genetalia stay un-photographed, and I&#8217;m merely interested in this as a philosophical arguement.</p>
<p>Last thing: I think it&#8217;s the men who&#8217;ve had their personal privacy raped who are the true victims here, not some imaginary woman who had to see a few extra pictures of wangs. It&#8217;s kinda backwards to say that THEY asked for what they got. So they made a stupid choice&#8230; Not much more stupid than walking down the street in a bad neighborhood with your breasts hanging out of your shirt and your ass hanging out of your shorts.</p>
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		<title>By: 2Short</title>
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		<dc:creator>2Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bacchus:  You're incredulous that people are arguing "she asked for it"?  Have you seen the original ad?  It's a picture of a woman bending over, spreading her ass goatse-style, with a request for brutal sex (not mind you, "rough BDSM sex", or anything that would have implied connection with any alternative-sexuality reality.)  That someone could interpret it as serious ad is a bit out there, but if we suspend our disbeleif that far, it is definitely a request for dick-pic type responses.  
Which makes sense considering what we know to be the truth: "She" was a he, trolling for responses to post publicly to humiliate the respondents.  "She" was in reality definitely asking for exactly that type of response, and got them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bacchus:  You&#8217;re incredulous that people are arguing &#8220;she asked for it&#8221;?  Have you seen the original ad?  It&#8217;s a picture of a woman bending over, spreading her ass goatse-style, with a request for brutal sex (not mind you, &#8220;rough BDSM sex&#8221;, or anything that would have implied connection with any alternative-sexuality reality.)  That someone could interpret it as serious ad is a bit out there, but if we suspend our disbeleif that far, it is definitely a request for dick-pic type responses.<br />
Which makes sense considering what we know to be the truth: &#8220;She&#8221; was a he, trolling for responses to post publicly to humiliate the respondents.  &#8220;She&#8221; was in reality definitely asking for exactly that type of response, and got them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Color me incredulous.

&lt;i&gt;She asked for it?  The bitch had it coming?&lt;/i&gt;  I'm really getting "She asked for it?" from the penis pic partisans?

So far four responses in this thread have argued, one way or another, that it was OK to send penis pictures because of the way the (fake ad)  woman presented herself.  This is confirming my opinion that the "send penis pic responses to personals" hobby is a virtual manifestation of the tired old "expose yourself in the street to passing women" sexual misconduct.  "She asked for it" is the ancient cry of rapists, remember?  "She was dressed like a slut", "she led me on", one way or another, it's really all her fault that my unwelcome sexual conduct happened.

Geez, guys, if you can't join us up here in the twenty-first century, could you at least try to haul your hairy  butts into the late twentieth?

Go online.  Google "dick pictures personals".  Look for women who have posted personals.  Take a Google poll.  A huge majority of women do not want dick pictures in response to their personals.  Some don't mind, many expect it, many are happy to filter them out, but you'll find damned few who consider them appropriate, responsive, or useful.    

She didn't ask for it.  Even if the fake ad woman had been real, and even if she had wanted a dom to give her rough BDSM sex, she still wouldn't have picked him by his dick picture.

Hint:  Unless the ad says "Want boyfriend with ferrari and big dick; send picture of dick" -- she's not asking for pictures of dick.  Women who write sex personals know how to say what they want, and they're not shy about doing so.

She didn't ask for it.  Get over it.  You're embarrassing the community of men with your virtual flasher hobby.  Just stoppit, OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Color me incredulous.</p>
<p><i>She asked for it?  The bitch had it coming?</i>  I&#8217;m really getting &#8220;She asked for it?&#8221; from the penis pic partisans?</p>
<p>So far four responses in this thread have argued, one way or another, that it was OK to send penis pictures because of the way the (fake ad)  woman presented herself.  This is confirming my opinion that the &#8220;send penis pic responses to personals&#8221; hobby is a virtual manifestation of the tired old &#8220;expose yourself in the street to passing women&#8221; sexual misconduct.  &#8220;She asked for it&#8221; is the ancient cry of rapists, remember?  &#8220;She was dressed like a slut&#8221;, &#8220;she led me on&#8221;, one way or another, it&#8217;s really all her fault that my unwelcome sexual conduct happened.</p>
<p>Geez, guys, if you can&#8217;t join us up here in the twenty-first century, could you at least try to haul your hairy  butts into the late twentieth?</p>
<p>Go online.  Google &#8220;dick pictures personals&#8221;.  Look for women who have posted personals.  Take a Google poll.  A huge majority of women do not want dick pictures in response to their personals.  Some don&#8217;t mind, many expect it, many are happy to filter them out, but you&#8217;ll find damned few who consider them appropriate, responsive, or useful.    </p>
<p>She didn&#8217;t ask for it.  Even if the fake ad woman had been real, and even if she had wanted a dom to give her rough BDSM sex, she still wouldn&#8217;t have picked him by his dick picture.</p>
<p>Hint:  Unless the ad says &#8220;Want boyfriend with ferrari and big dick; send picture of dick&#8221; &#8212; she&#8217;s not asking for pictures of dick.  Women who write sex personals know how to say what they want, and they&#8217;re not shy about doing so.</p>
<p>She didn&#8217;t ask for it.  Get over it.  You&#8217;re embarrassing the community of men with your virtual flasher hobby.  Just stoppit, OK?</p>
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