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		<title>By: rae</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/11/02/internet-porn-for-the-greater-good/#comment-12973</link>
		<dc:creator>rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fundamental flaw in argument:  "lower incidence of REPORTED rape."

A lower incidence of reported rape does not mean there is less rape.  There are a variety of factors to be considered in response to reporting to law enforcement.  And reporting to LE doesn't mean it will be entered in as a sex crime, it may be just considered a general "assault" for a variety of reasons relating to crime reporting and the benefit that LE agencies get from having lower crime rates, or lower "violent" crime rates (and assault and battery is not considered a statutorily violent offense in many states, whereas CSC is).

Just thought I'd point out that fundamental flaw.  The more subjective ones I'll leave out.  I thought it to be a very interesting post, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fundamental flaw in argument:  &#8220;lower incidence of REPORTED rape.&#8221;</p>
<p>A lower incidence of reported rape does not mean there is less rape.  There are a variety of factors to be considered in response to reporting to law enforcement.  And reporting to LE doesn&#8217;t mean it will be entered in as a sex crime, it may be just considered a general &#8220;assault&#8221; for a variety of reasons relating to crime reporting and the benefit that LE agencies get from having lower crime rates, or lower &#8220;violent&#8221; crime rates (and assault and battery is not considered a statutorily violent offense in many states, whereas CSC is).</p>
<p>Just thought I&#8217;d point out that fundamental flaw.  The more subjective ones I&#8217;ll leave out.  I thought it to be a very interesting post, though!</p>
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		<title>By: Ego Archive</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/11/02/internet-porn-for-the-greater-good/#comment-11820</link>
		<dc:creator>Ego Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#   Honeychurch Says:
November 2nd, 2006 at 5:32 pm

3. Fundamentally it doesn’t matter why anyone rapes. It’s about whether or not the woman consents, period, end of story.

last entry was hacked up.

either way, that statement is like saying "I don't care how cancer occurs, just fix it".  You need to know why something is happening before you can cure it. You seem to imply that only women are raped.  I suspect those men and boys who have been raped, would also be interested in making sure that it never happens to another person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#   Honeychurch Says:<br />
November 2nd, 2006 at 5:32 pm</p>
<p>3. Fundamentally it doesn’t matter why anyone rapes. It’s about whether or not the woman consents, period, end of story.</p>
<p>last entry was hacked up.</p>
<p>either way, that statement is like saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t care how cancer occurs, just fix it&#8221;.  You need to know why something is happening before you can cure it. You seem to imply that only women are raped.  I suspect those men and boys who have been raped, would also be interested in making sure that it never happens to another person.</p>
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		<title>By: Kali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the availability of violent, degrading porn might be just what some potential rapists are looking for, and they can get their thrill without resorting to going out and doing something that could send them to jail.  Porn!  When you're to lazy to go and rape someone yourself!
Kidding!  I am not saying that porn is all or inherently degrading, just that you can find almost any kind of porn on the internet.
I guess I don't think it's about access to porn as a reliever of sexual frustration, per se, I think it's about the specific availability of the kind of material that does play to degradation and power through sexual violence. "Violence and degradation frustration" rather than "sexual" itself.

I also would like to say that I don't think sexual frustration causes rape.  I find it hard to believe that someone who wouldn't ordinarily rape can get so frustrated sexually that they'll skip consent "just this once."  Either they are a person who respects consent every time, or they are someone who doesn't respect consent.  I doubt there's a case of, "Golly, if only they had masturbated before the date/hiding in the bushes with a knife/sneaking into the neighbor's house, that rape wouldn't have happened."  Call me a skeptic ;-)

Thanks for the provocative post, Bacchus :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the availability of violent, degrading porn might be just what some potential rapists are looking for, and they can get their thrill without resorting to going out and doing something that could send them to jail.  Porn!  When you&#8217;re to lazy to go and rape someone yourself!<br />
Kidding!  I am not saying that porn is all or inherently degrading, just that you can find almost any kind of porn on the internet.<br />
I guess I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s about access to porn as a reliever of sexual frustration, per se, I think it&#8217;s about the specific availability of the kind of material that does play to degradation and power through sexual violence. &#8220;Violence and degradation frustration&#8221; rather than &#8220;sexual&#8221; itself.</p>
<p>I also would like to say that I don&#8217;t think sexual frustration causes rape.  I find it hard to believe that someone who wouldn&#8217;t ordinarily rape can get so frustrated sexually that they&#8217;ll skip consent &#8220;just this once.&#8221;  Either they are a person who respects consent every time, or they are someone who doesn&#8217;t respect consent.  I doubt there&#8217;s a case of, &#8220;Golly, if only they had masturbated before the date/hiding in the bushes with a knife/sneaking into the neighbor&#8217;s house, that rape wouldn&#8217;t have happened.&#8221;  Call me a skeptic ;-)</p>
<p>Thanks for the provocative post, Bacchus :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Ego Archive</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2006/11/02/internet-porn-for-the-greater-good/#comment-11817</link>
		<dc:creator>Ego Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]#   Honeychurch Says:
November 2nd, 2006 at 5:32 pm

&#62;&#62;SNIP</description>
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November 2nd, 2006 at 5:32 pm</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;SNIP</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the effects of internet porn and rape...

This statement:

It’s easy to imagine how porn might serve as a substitute for rape.

Is just the flip-side of what "they" have been saying for ages:

It's easy to imagine how porn can provide the inspiration or catalyst to rapist, who might otherwise be under self-control.

You say potato and they say potatoe.

I can "imagine" both statements to be true, to some degree.  But, I'm not buying that it's a significant effect either way. And, I would think the minimal positive and negative effects (with respect to rape) would just counter one another.

If the spread of internet access is somehow linked to a decrease in sexual assaults, then I think it must be due to some third factor at play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the effects of internet porn and rape&#8230;</p>
<p>This statement:</p>
<p>It’s easy to imagine how porn might serve as a substitute for rape.</p>
<p>Is just the flip-side of what &#8220;they&#8221; have been saying for ages:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to imagine how porn can provide the inspiration or catalyst to rapist, who might otherwise be under self-control.</p>
<p>You say potato and they say potatoe.</p>
<p>I can &#8220;imagine&#8221; both statements to be true, to some degree.  But, I&#8217;m not buying that it&#8217;s a significant effect either way. And, I would think the minimal positive and negative effects (with respect to rape) would just counter one another.</p>
<p>If the spread of internet access is somehow linked to a decrease in sexual assaults, then I think it must be due to some third factor at play.</p>
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		<title>By: NDO</title>
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		<dc:creator>NDO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enthralling thread!  I wish I had something to add, but Bacchus, you summed up my thoughts exactly, once again.  Thanks for sharing the fascinating research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enthralling thread!  I wish I had something to add, but Bacchus, you summed up my thoughts exactly, once again.  Thanks for sharing the fascinating research.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if there is any similar research on sexual crime rates and the availability of niche porn mags. Although print media is (at least imo) less likely to be willing to show such extreme fare as you'll see on the net, so perhaps the tension releasing effect is lessor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if there is any similar research on sexual crime rates and the availability of niche porn mags. Although print media is (at least imo) less likely to be willing to show such extreme fare as you&#8217;ll see on the net, so perhaps the tension releasing effect is lessor.</p>
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