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	<title>Comments on: Cory Doctorow On The Value Of Links</title>
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		<title>By: SecretiveSlave</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2008/08/18/cory-doctorow-on-the-value-of-links/#comment-90493</link>
		<dc:creator>SecretiveSlave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bacchus,

Here here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bacchus,</p>
<p>Here here</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2008/08/18/cory-doctorow-on-the-value-of-links/#comment-90478</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bacchus,

I have only just received my journeyman&#039;s old geezer certificate, so I am not a respected source on the definition and classification of curmudgeonly behavior. Yet I find your admonition fits more in the line of &quot;if you spill gasoline on yourself, don&#039;t strike a match&quot; than &quot;stop breaking the windows.&quot; 

I have been aware of this problem for a while, having seen it critiqued by other sources.  There is a value in knowing that there was a link, even if it can not be retrieved. Further, Dr Doctrow certainly knows that there is a reasonable likelihood a link can be retrieved via the &quot;Way Back Machine.&quot; His rationalizations have seriously damaged the credibility of BoingBoing  -- and far worse, the net in general. 

As such, I believe that your remonstrations have been far too genteel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bacchus,</p>
<p>I have only just received my journeyman&#8217;s old geezer certificate, so I am not a respected source on the definition and classification of curmudgeonly behavior. Yet I find your admonition fits more in the line of &#8220;if you spill gasoline on yourself, don&#8217;t strike a match&#8221; than &#8220;stop breaking the windows.&#8221; </p>
<p>I have been aware of this problem for a while, having seen it critiqued by other sources.  There is a value in knowing that there was a link, even if it can not be retrieved. Further, Dr Doctrow certainly knows that there is a reasonable likelihood a link can be retrieved via the &#8220;Way Back Machine.&#8221; His rationalizations have seriously damaged the credibility of BoingBoing  &#8212; and far worse, the net in general. </p>
<p>As such, I believe that your remonstrations have been far too genteel.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacchus</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2008/08/18/cory-doctorow-on-the-value-of-links/#comment-90449</link>
		<dc:creator>Bacchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M, there&#039;s been a consistent thread, in the comments on my original vandalism post and in the Boing Boing response to critics, to the effect that &quot;links vanish or get broken all the time, that&#039;s just the way it is on the internet, geez, why are you so upset about it?&quot;

Which makes me the curmudgeon shaking his cane and shouting at kids who are throwing rocks through windows.  &quot;Geez, Grandpa, this is our building, who the hell are you to complain about how many windows we break?&quot;

And the idea that we are all citizens of a city with more broken windows than it needs to have?  Just doesn&#039;t seem to bother the rock-throwing crowd.  They think I don&#039;t get it about the internets, and I think &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t get it about the internets, and so we shout at each other.

Or, as in the case in the Boing Boing thread, people just flat refuse to believe that I even care about the internets, and decide to ascribe worse motives to me, and call me a liar while they are about it.  (Now that I think about it, that happened in the vandalism thread also.)

And again, it&#039;s not that I&#039;m against people maintaining their internet resources, which does indeed sometimes require deleting stuff for a good reason, just like maintaining a landscaped garden sometimes requires removing a tree.  I just hate to see bulldozers and paving machines when a pruning knife and a hand saw would get the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M, there&#8217;s been a consistent thread, in the comments on my original vandalism post and in the Boing Boing response to critics, to the effect that &#8220;links vanish or get broken all the time, that&#8217;s just the way it is on the internet, geez, why are you so upset about it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Which makes me the curmudgeon shaking his cane and shouting at kids who are throwing rocks through windows.  &#8220;Geez, Grandpa, this is our building, who the hell are you to complain about how many windows we break?&#8221;</p>
<p>And the idea that we are all citizens of a city with more broken windows than it needs to have?  Just doesn&#8217;t seem to bother the rock-throwing crowd.  They think I don&#8217;t get it about the internets, and I think <i>they</i> don&#8217;t get it about the internets, and so we shout at each other.</p>
<p>Or, as in the case in the Boing Boing thread, people just flat refuse to believe that I even care about the internets, and decide to ascribe worse motives to me, and call me a liar while they are about it.  (Now that I think about it, that happened in the vandalism thread also.)</p>
<p>And again, it&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m against people maintaining their internet resources, which does indeed sometimes require deleting stuff for a good reason, just like maintaining a landscaped garden sometimes requires removing a tree.  I just hate to see bulldozers and paving machines when a pruning knife and a hand saw would get the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2008/08/18/cory-doctorow-on-the-value-of-links/#comment-90431</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well reasoned, and well said. 

Though I don&#039;t quite understand the part about being a geezer for defending the integrity of links. Swill or not, the greatest informational value is contained within the complete unedited, unbowlderized, original. Anything else is a surrender to entropy at best, or more likely, censorship of one variety or other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well reasoned, and well said. </p>
<p>Though I don&#8217;t quite understand the part about being a geezer for defending the integrity of links. Swill or not, the greatest informational value is contained within the complete unedited, unbowlderized, original. Anything else is a surrender to entropy at best, or more likely, censorship of one variety or other.</p>
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		<title>By: Raquel</title>
		<link>http://www.erosblog.com/2008/08/18/cory-doctorow-on-the-value-of-links/#comment-90355</link>
		<dc:creator>Raquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading your commentary, this brings to mind a question.

Do you perchance know your MBTI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading your commentary, this brings to mind a question.</p>
<p>Do you perchance know your MBTI?</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done sir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done sir</p>
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		<title>By: Textgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Textgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have my babies please. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have my babies please. Thank you.</p>
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