Google’s Secret Sexual No-Fly List
Remember my post from September on what I called Google’s Mechanical Prude? About how their search autofill appeared to be filtering out a huge volume of adult keywords, even if you’d set your “Safesearch” preference cookie to prevent adult filtering?
Well, Tony Comstock got to looking at this over the last couple of days, and he appears to have figured out the mechanism better than I did. It’s apparently not filtering by keywords at all. Rather, there appears to be a sort of sexual “no fly-list” of websites (Eros Blog is on it), and if a given keyword or set of keywords would generate search results in which those websites appear prominently, the keyword is excluded from the autofill process.
Tony explains it better than I can: Are You On Google’s Secret List?
The annoying and disgusting part is that this appears to be a pure sex filter; other websites you’d think would be considered at least as offensive as sex sites, like neo-Nazi sites, don’t get filtered out.
Amber Rhea has been investigating also, and guess what? No sex education in the auto-fill for you!
And now it gets interesting. In this comment, Tony mentions that he got, and blogged, a response from the public face of Google Search, Matt Cutts. Tony provided this URL, which is currently 404:
http://www.comstockfilms.com/blog/tony/2008/11/14/googles-matt-cutts-responds/
Why is it 404? For that, I had to do some Twitter sleuthing. Tony has a Twitter: “Matt expressed dismay that I used his e-mail without telling him first. My bad. I took it down and haven’t replaced the URL.”
So, apparently the reaction that Tony got from Matt wasn’t something Matt was willing to stand behind in public. Perhaps that’s good news, considering that Amber, who saw it while it was up, called it “very frustrating.” Tony’s nicer than I would have been; until Google has something public to say about this, I don’t think it’s cricket to be making private responses and then “expressing dismay” when they go public.
As for ErosBlog, we get more than 500 “navigational searches” a day. These are visitors who type [erosblog] or [eros blog] or [erosblog.com] into a Google search box, knowing they want to come here and looking for the fastest way to get here. Google’s search data, which tracks which website (this one) these searchers select from the results, is fully briefed on what these searchers are looking for. So why is it that Google Suggest draws a blank when somebody types an e, an r, and an o into the searchbox? Erosblog, erotica, eroticism, erotomania, is there really NOTHING in the Google search results to suggest to an [ero] searcher?
We know there is, because you’re reading it. And Google knows too, because they have the data. It’s clear that Google is actively choosing not to provide the best search experience it could provide, when the search topic is sexual. What’s not clear is why.
Google’s mission statement: “Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful.”
Unless the information in question is sexual information, apparently.
Update: Tony has blogged again, mentioning but not detailing his communications with Matt Cutts.
Shorter URL for sharing: https://www.erosblog.com/?p=2606
Another weird thing I just discovered: “sex education” doesn’t autofill but “sexual education” does. Now that is even weirder to me. What is the deal?
What is the best substitute for a search engine?
They are now reporting to the government if we are looking up “flu”. What next?
I hate to say it, but this is a remnant of church doctrine. It falls into the same category as why birth control is frowned upon (even condoms in extreme cases), why there isn’t more encompassing sex education in schools, and why enjoying sex (especially premarital sex) is a bad thing. I’m sure there are some people on the google team who don’t agree with the no-fly list; but google is a business, and these sexual concerns are felt by too many people (politician type people) for google to treat them lightly. Such is life…
Disturbing in so many ways…
Hopefully, this will get some publicity and embarrass Google into backing off the moralistic approach to service.
It drives me crazy that I have to reset my preferences from “Moderately Safe” nearly every time I use GIS, but this is a whole new level of user manipulation.
Just another example of how prude our society really is. Maybe they are afraid that children will find the links. Kids know how to use Google; it is a well-known search tool these days. And, you know, God forbid kids know about sex! It will make them crazy sex fiends, going around screwing everyone and everything in sight! Of course, making sex taboo and wrong only makes kids more curious, and as we all know, kids are going to have sex anyway. Which is why talking openly about sex and sex education is so important, but I digress.
Our puritanical society has made sex such a taboo thing, especially for kids. So my guess is that they don’t want to make sexual suggestions to poor little virgin eyes.
Assuming that the list of auto-fill is populated based on number of instances or even hit-count, Google would be way less useful if it did auto-fill this kind of content. There is a whole lot of it out there. It could get difficult to make use of the feature for stuff other than t3h pron.
There should definitely be an option to include such content (just like safe search) given Google’s ubiquitous status on the internet, but sometimes you just aren’t looking for porn and that should be the default setting.
Now why it is when you turn safe search off no such auto-fill option exists is somewhat baffling.
I wonder if they are trying to make the autofill compatible with the safe search filtering. It seems that your search preferences don’t effect this, but it also seems as though they should.
Maybe there is something more acceptable in progress, or in line to be in progress. That is what I would hope. (Because lots of people probably wouldn’t want to mis-click and see something that would make them feel bad, but it does seem unfair to restrict a useful tool to ‘approved’ topics of interest).
To Alex Botts: Google is not reporting to the government–they are reporting to anyone who wants to know. Search statistics are readily available to anyone who wants them; there is no factual basis for conspiracy theories of this kind. Censorship, though, is evidently a problem.
Thanks Bacchus for this post. Nothing from Google yet, but a few new observations and thought
Google Update (Is it safe?)
http://www.coms...date/
Are you really unhappy that it does not auto complete to find your web site? Or that it filters out sexual sites? I love this web site and I am glad I stumbled on it from Daily Bedpost, but I would rather stumble on it that way than have kids find it so easily the other way. How many web sites have you found just by playing in the search engine and being surprised by what comes up? (Pun not intended.) It is a wonderful serendipity. I think it is poor thinking on their part to block out such sites if you stop safe searching though. If I am actively hunting for some really good salacious porn, then please do not censor me. But I did not create Google and am not Google millionaire, so I do not get to make the rules. I am going to browse your site now…
Holy crap.When I saw Comstock’s name,I thought I had gone back to the dark days.I find it annoying to stumble onto a salacious site by accident,but it is nice to know I can visit these sites if I wish.Banish the comstocks of the world and leave us our freedom.
Apparently you’re not on the “no fly list” anymore. I just put “eros blog” on my Google bar and it directed me to your site.
Cosmicdan, appreciate the input but you’re not understanding precisely what is being complained about.
There was a time when Google search was excluding various adult sites from the search results, and that problem has (somewhat) been resolved. But we’re not talking about that.
We’re talking about the little autofiller tool that proposes various searches while you type. That little tool won’t propose any searches about [eros] to people who begin typing. The *reason* may be that ErosBlog is a search the tool-authors don’t want to offer, but the *result* is that people who are reading old poems and wondering “What is Eros” are not helped by the tool.
This is objectionable not because they can’t find my blog (all they have to do is finish typing “eros blog” if they already know about it) but because it’s using a sledgehammer to swat a fly. The tool is broken for huge swaths of human knowledge, because of Google’s apparent prudishness.
Tony Comstock has done a great job of explaining why this is objectionable.